We Stand Divided
The Rift Between American Jews and Israel
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Fred Sanders
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Daniel Gordis
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From National Jewish Book Award Winner and author of Israel, a bold reevaluation of the tensions between American and Israeli Jews that reimagines the past, present, and future of Jewish life.
Relations between the American Jewish community and Israel are at an all-time nadir. Since Israel’s founding 70 years ago, particularly as memory of the Holocaust and of Israel’s early vulnerability has receded, the divide has grown only wider. Most explanations pin the blame on Israel’s handling of its conflict with the Palestinians, Israel’s attitude toward non-Orthodox Judaism, and Israel’s dismissive attitude toward American Jews in general. In short, the cause for the rupture is not what Israel is; it’s what Israel does.
These explanations tell only half the story. We Stand Divided examines the history of the troubled relationship, showing that from the outset, the founders of what are now the world’s two largest Jewish communities were responding to different threats and opportunities, and had very different ideas of how to guarantee a Jewish future.
With an even hand, Daniel Gordis takes us beyond the headlines and explains how Israel and America have fundamentally different ideas about issues ranging from democracy and history to religion and identity. He argues that as a first step to healing the breach, the two communities must acknowledge and discuss their profound differences and moral commitments. Only then can they forge a path forward, together.
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Democracy Matters is Cornel West's bold and powerful critique of the troubling deterioration of democracy in America in this threatening post-9/11 age of terrorist rage and imperial overreach, and an inspiring call for a resurgence of the deep democratic tradition in our country, which has waged war on the forces of imperialist corruption throughout our history.
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Well written, a refreshing voice of inspiration
- By Gabriel on 07-06-05
By: Cornel West
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Last Call for Liberty
- How America's Genius for Freedom Has Become Its Greatest Threat
- By: Os Guinness
- Narrated by: Os Guinness
- Length: 14 hrs and 40 mins
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The hour is critical. The American republic is suffering its gravest crisis since the Civil War. Conflicts, hostility, and incivility now threaten to tear the country apart. Competing visions have led to a dangerous moment of cultural self-destruction. This is no longer politics as usual, but an era of political warfare where our enemies are not foreign adversaries, but our fellow citizens. Yet the roots of the crisis are deeper than many realize. Os Guinness argues that we face a fundamental crisis of freedom, as America's genius for freedom has become her Achilles' heel.
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Thought Provoking Work On Liberty In America
- By Ezekiel on 05-28-19
By: Os Guinness
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The Battle for Bonhoeffer
- By: Stephen R. Haynes
- Narrated by: Trevor Thompson
- Length: 6 hrs and 10 mins
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The figure of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945) has become a clay puppet in modern American politics. Secular, radical, liberal, and evangelical interpreters variously shape and mold the martyr’s legacy to suit their own pet agendas. Stephen Haynes offers an incisive and clarifying perspective. A recognized Bonhoeffer expert, Haynes examines “populist” readings of Bonhoeffer, including the acclaimed biography by Eric Metaxas, Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy.
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Bonhoeffer was a person, not a Rorschach test
- By Adam Shields on 10-12-18
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Can We Talk About Israel?
- A Guide for the Curious, Confused, and Conflicted
- By: Daniel Sokatch
- Narrated by: Daniel Sokatch
- Length: 11 hrs and 14 mins
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'Can’t you just explain the Israel situation to me? In, like, 10 minutes or less?' This is the question Daniel Sokatch is used to answering on an almost daily basis as the head of the New Israel Fund, an organization dedicated to equality and democracy for all Israelis, not just Jews. Can We Talk About Israel? is the story of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, grappling with a century-long struggle between two peoples that both perceive themselves as (and indeed are) victims.
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Not completely sincere in its promise
- By Buretto on 10-30-21
By: Daniel Sokatch
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The War on History
- The Conspiracy to Rewrite America’s Past
- By: Jarrett Stepman
- Narrated by: Chris Abell
- Length: 7 hrs and 24 mins
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America is hopelessly divided, but more worryingly, the ideas and “mystic chords of memory” that rest at the cornerstone of our civilization and bind the generations are being severed, attacked, and forgotten. The left has set out to shatter these bonds with a war on American history - the fundamental concepts, institutions, and icons that make our country what it is. And we have failed to protect our history, allowing Hollywood, educators, and the media to rewrite the story of America. We have ignored the invaluable lessons of our parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
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Culture war, not history
- By J. Pulton on 03-08-21
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Liberal Fascism
- The Secret History of the American Left
- By: Jonah Goldberg
- Narrated by: Johnny Heller
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"Fascists", "Brownshirts", "jackbooted stormtroopers" - such are the insults typically hurled at conservatives by their liberal opponents. Calling someone a fascist is the fastest way to shut them up, defining their views as beyond the political pale. But who are the real fascists in our midst?
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Great book
- By Mark on 05-10-08
By: Jonah Goldberg
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Suicide of the West
- How the Rebirth of Tribalism, Populism, Nationalism, and Identity Politics is Destroying American Democracy
- By: Jonah Goldberg
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Only once in the last 250,000 years have humans stumbled upon a way to lift ourselves out of the endless cycle of poverty, hunger, and war that defines most of history. If democracy, individualism, and the free market were humankind’s destiny, they should have appeared and taken hold a bit earlier in the evolutionary record. The emergence of freedom and prosperity was nothing short of a miracle.
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Put some gratitude in your attitude
- By Amazon Customer on 04-25-18
By: Jonah Goldberg
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Never Alone
- Prison, Politics, and My People
- By: Natan Sharansky, Gil Troy
- Narrated by: Natan Sharansky, Gil Troy, Peter Lownds
- Length: 22 hrs and 41 mins
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In 1977, Natan Sharansky, a leading activist in the democratic dissident movement in the Soviet Union and the movement for free Jewish emigration, was arrested by the KGB. He spent nine years as a political prisoner, convicted of treason against the state. Never Alone reveals how Sharansky's years in prison, many spent in harsh solitary confinement, prepared him for a very public life after his release. As an Israeli politician and the head of the Jewish Agency, Sharansky brought extraordinary moral clarity and uncompromising, often uncomfortable, honesty.
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Fantastic
- By Danna Azrieli on 02-06-21
By: Natan Sharansky, and others
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When the Facts Change
- Essays, 1995-2010
- By: Tony Judt
- Narrated by: Sean Pratt
- Length: 14 hrs
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In When the Facts Change, Tony Judt's widow and fellow historian Jennifer Homans has assembled an essential collection of the most important and influential pieces written in the last 15 years of Judt's life, the years in which he found his voice in the public sphere. Included are seminal essays on the full range of Judt's concerns, including Europe as an idea and in reality, before 1989 and thereafter; Israel, the Holocaust and the Jews; American hyperpower and the world after 9/11.
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Essential
- By Herman Utik on 09-19-16
By: Tony Judt
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The Mighty and the Almighty
- Reflections on America, God, and World Affairs
- By: Madeleine Albright
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Does America have a special mission, derived from God, to bring liberty and democracy to the world? How much influence does the Christian right have over U.S. foreign policy? And how should America deal with violent Islamist extremists? Madeleine Albright, the former Secretary of State and best-selling author of Madam Secretary, offers a thoughtful and often surprising look at the role of religion in shaping America's approach to the world.
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The point??
- By Thomas on 11-04-06
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Hitler's True Believers
- How Ordinary People Became Nazis
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Understanding Adolf Hitler's ideology provides insights into the mental world of an extremist politics that, over the course of the Third Reich, developed explosive energies culminating in the Second World War and the Holocaust. Too often the theories underlying National Socialism or Nazism are dismissed as an irrational hodgepodge of ideas. Yet that ideology drove Hitler's quest for power in 1933, colored everything in the Third Reich, and transformed him, however briefly, into the most powerful leader in the world.
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Fascinating listen
- By Amy Neff on 12-15-22
By: Robert Gellately
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- Leonard R. Wizmur
- 12-22-20
A Must Read!
A must read for any American Jew who has any reservation about the significance of Israel to the continuity of the Jewish people.
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- Alexandra
- 12-24-19
Profound analysis of the divide between Israelis and American Jews
As someone struggling to understand progressive Jews’ perspectives on Israel, this book has taught me much that I don’t know. It is very deeply researched, well balanced, and contains a lot of historical background. It is also very timely. Highly recommended reading or listening.
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- L. Brown
- 02-22-20
Thoughtful, important, inspiring
The empathy that Gordis brings to his subjects may be enough to heal significant wounds and overcome fear and pain.
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- Amazon Customer
- 10-11-19
A must read!
A deep, well researched and unbiased look into a most relevant issue for all Jews.
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- Momof3
- 06-13-20
Spot on
Danile Gordis continues to inspire me!!! On to his next book. Suggested title “2020 and American Jews — time to come home”
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- Nico Vela
- 12-09-22
An interesting look at an age old issue
This book provides an interesting look at an age old issue that is the Israeli Jewish versus the American Jewish communities; and the ways that the divide has always been present, if not subtly so.
Gordis discusses the ways in which American Democracy shaped American Jewry's views on the world and on the religion, versus the ways in which Israel was founded and grew to shape Israeli Jewry's views on the world, the religion, and the people as a whole.
A great and interesting read.
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- Benzion N. Chinn
- 09-12-19
Jews Will Argue With Each Other
This is one of the finest books about contemporary Judaism out there and deserves to be compared to such works as Jew Vs. Jew and Like Dreamers. Even if you have no particular interest in Judaism, this book is valuable as an exercise in recognizing that people are going to choose different legitimate values and this will lead to disagreements without anyone being a villain. For example, there is a question that haunts this book; if we were to decide that it is not possible for there to be a peace treaty with the Palestinians and the Arab world and the only Israel that will be possible is one always at war would you still want there to be a Jewish State? Like any serious moral dilemma, the only possible answer is that there are no good answers that one could offer with a clear conscious.
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- For what it's worth
- 12-02-19
Provocative expose of Jews in US and Israel
Fred Sanders narrates beautifully.
Gordis really digs down into history and explains the evolution of the Jewish American-Israeli relationship using historians, world leaders, poets, literary giants and .orgs. There is a divide that may not ever be completely reconciled however, it cannot be ignored because the survival of both depends on each other in order to guarantee the global Jewish future. This book is a motivator for dialogue and a lot of listening on both sides.
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- michaelforrest
- 09-09-20
Well-written and superbly narrated.
Informative, enlightening and very relevant. Enjoyed this a lot. Recommended to any person curious about Israel and the diaspora.
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- Steve Yastrow
- 02-11-23
Such an insightful, important book
Any Jew, especially those in Israel or America, will gain a lot by reading this insightful book. Gordis deeply understands, and articulately communicates, the interdependencies between Israel and American Jewry, and demonstrates the challenges and vulnerabilities that exist. Really well done. My only problem was with the narrator - and it should not be enough to discourage anyone from listening to the books. His voice is nice and he has good delivery, but he mispronounces a lot of Hebrew words, and made a number of silly mistakes: in describing Entebbe he said an “Air Force plane” instead of an “Air France” plane; he once called Herzl “Hershel;” and in talking about how Gordis’s brother smuggled a transistor radio into Yom Kippur services in 1973 when the war broke out, and could then get news to everyone in the synagogue, the narrator read "most valuable player" as "most valuable prayer." Gordis is so good on his podcast - too bad he didn't read this book. But don't let that discourage you. 99% of the time the narrator is fine and 100% of the time Gordis is excellent.
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