Content warning - this episode includes discussions around birth trauma, if this won’t be helpful for you to listen to, please choose another episode to listen to.

Join Rachel and Lucy, in conversation with Hayley Charlesworth from Harry’s Pals.

They think back to the moment you get life changing news about your child: when all the focus is on all the things that are wrong or broken, and what they’ll need to do for your child as a result, and stop there. In a world where there is no emotional support provided for parents to navigate the rollercoaster that they’ve just got onto, Hayley has established Harry’s Pals to help fill this gap.

We also discuss, ‘Is there a good way to break bad news?’ and we meet Lucy’s Resident Rat friend.

You can find out more about Harry’s Pals here.

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