1:22 The fellas discuss their favorite Ken phrase

1:44- Ken tells us what it means to be a product management truth teller

5:16- What can we do as product managers to become more valuable?

8:35- One of the first steps- What goal are you trying to achieve and how can I help you get there?

10:30- Ken tells us why you should spend 20 min a week interviewing a customer

12:55: Todd outlines why experimentation is critical for a product manager

16:45- The team discuss the product management anti-patterns we should watch out for

23:00- How to make yourself an indispensable product person?

26:30- Ken talks about how you can build a quarterly plan to build a strong product management team

28:00- Todd shares his PM secret sauce- Product Framing

29:00- Ryan reminds us to ask the question “So What”

30:56- We share Ken’s favorite PM phrase “Magic Beans”

34:15- What got us here (why are there so many PMs that are unemployed)?

37:40- Is there another domain where the role is defined by someone who doesn’t understand the value of product management?

40:00 Key Takeaways/Wrap-up

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1:22- Joe explains why the role of Product Player Coach role is a cop-out

2:51- Todd uses data to say how it can work and leverages his love of the NBA to demonstrates why

5:34- We discuss what success looks like for a Product Manager Player Coach

10:02- Ryan walks us through how we resolved the challenges associated with this hybrid role

13:32- Todd walks us through the disadvantages of the hybrid PM/Coach role

16:03- Joe emphatically tells us why Product Managers must be successful at relationships- Product Managers are already “coaches”

20:15- We talk about getting uncomfortable to grow as a product manager

23:30- Joe discusses his affinity for gold stars

26:30- Life lessons from being a player-coach have advantages for career advancement if you want to be a people manager

30:20- What are the negatives of being a player-coach?

32:30- We hear about Todd’s real-life experience as a player-coach. Todd clashes with his peers but learns to turn it around.

34:50- Ryan tells us about his real-life experience as a player-coach. He’s the scapegoat!

37:10- How do relationships change when you become a player-coach?

40:20- Hear a fantastic analogy between player-coach and Spider-man 2

44:25- Words of advice for anyone considering the role of player-coach.

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1:30 Ryan ponders what product failure means?

3:37 The true definition of failure is identified

6:33 Todd speaks to the categories of product failure

9:33 Todd assumes the role of therapist and tells Ryan and Joe they didn’t fail

12:13- We discuss how we turn failure into a learning opportunity

15:06- Joe discusses the most underrated product management skill

19:08- We bring back the Jobs to be done framework when dealing with our co-workers

22:25- Todd shares a tip on how manage friction with a co-workers (brilliant)

25:44- We talk about the temptation to take short-cuts with process

29:00 Todd tells us why he didn’t win any newsroom awards one year

31:00 Ryan comes up with a new PM slogan “It's the scars that make you and not the successes” (Joe thinks it should be on a bumper sticker)

32:34- The “learning” is knowing how we can do it better next time (Hallmark card time)

35:00 - Todd reminds why we shouldn’t never give up when the going gets tough

36:08 - We talk about the fear of using AI to make product management short cuts

37:09 - We all share our product failure war stories

44:30- Wayne’s World reference makes its way into our podcast- Success!

48:00- Thoughts on how you respond to failure drives who you are as a product manager

52:00 Wrap Up

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1:07 – Joe kicks off the discussion on useless product management terms.
1:49 – We start the PM Jargon Draft, with Todd winning the #1 pick.
3:04 – Todd and Ryan’s #1 pick: "CEO of the Product."
4:23 – Joe’s #1 pick: "Customer Centric" (he’s salty he couldn’t trade for the #1 pick).
6:07 – Todd discusses how every healthcare company is "patient-first" – shouldn’t we all be patient-first in healthcare?
7:14 – Ryan questions "Productize" – is it a verb? A new word in the English dictionary? The big draft controversy.
9:41 – Todd adds "Gathering Requirements" to his hit list of terrible PM terms. We suggest "Gathering Insights" as a better alternative.
15:00 – Iteration vs. Agile discussion – "We are going to be Agile" drives Joe nuts because it often just means "Can we launch it faster?"
18:20 – Ryan selects a declaration: "We are going to be more innovative."
21:10 – "Thinking outside the box" is a controversial pick in the draft.
22:25 – Todd explains why he hates the term "Feature Parity"; Joe recommends "Holistic Approach" instead.
30:51 – "Being Product-led" is a steal in the 3rd round for Ryan, who explains what it really means.
36:10 – Undrafted superstar PM Terms (Joe has PTSD from Ryan yelling at him for "fail fast").
40:00 – Todd predicts next year’s draft class, starting with "Outcomes over Outputs," "Product-Market Fit," and "Go-to-Market Enablement."
43:00 – Actionable takeaways.

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• Ryan tells us how he leveraged PM principles recently for his mulch project ( 0:45)
• Joe shows us how Ryan applied the Jobs to Done framework to Ryan’s approach (3:00)
• We discuss how often we apply PM Principles creep into our life (5:00)
• Todd discusses how Problem Framing can be applied in real-world scenarios (12:00)
• Joe gives us a review of the Broadway Show “Heart of Rock and Roll” (20:00)
• Ryan walks us through dot voting techniques for family (21:00)
• Todd experiments with Tiny Acts of Discovery (23:50)
• Ryan applies iteration techniques when filling up the dishwasher (26:40)
• Todd discusses success metrics and his neighbor's lawn (31:00)
• We talk about which product principles don’t work in real life (32:27)
• Key takeaways and our recommendations (38:24)

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• Product Champions: a new title for PMs (1:00)
• Airbnb gets rid of product manager title (3:45)
• Chief No Officer / Head of No / Innovation Sponge / Walking Roadblock / Killer of Dreams, (5:55)
• Superman, Smokey the Bear and Lil Smokies, and User Psychologists (12:15)
• Group Therapist, Anger Manager, and The Negotiator (15:20)
• Outcome Architect and Director of Opinions (19:00)
• Aladdin and Product Genie wishing rules (22:30)
• Provlemologist and Innovation Specialists (27:15)
• The Fortune Teller, Product Facilier, and Product Gambler (29:45)
• Napalm Artist, sports cliches, and The Joker (33:40)
• Value Broker, Risk Mitigator, and Zookeeper (37:40)
• We discuss whether or not the PM title needs a rebrand (39:00)
• Which PM titles are our favorites (41:00)
• Why the Product Manager role needs a brand and marketing department (45:15)
• Key Takeaways (46:40)

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• Ryan emphatically explains why you don’t need experience for a PM job (2:11)
• Joe shares why it isn’t a black/white answer (4:20)
• The danger in over-indexing to hiring for experience (8:30)
• The value of mentorships to overcome a lack of industry experience (18:00)
• Ryan walks us through the beginners mindset as a product leader (23:00)
• Find fit for the role - don’t rely on the experience - how long does it take to be great at product discovery (28:00)
• Ryan tell us why he hates the term “fail fast” (31:00)
• The similarities between baseball and product management (35:10)
• A teaser on an upcoming product management podcast (41:00)
• Key Takeaways (45:30)

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• Ryan’s story - struggle with plastic bags - being environmentally responsible (:58)
• Jobs to be Done is a PM’s superpower (5:00)
• Using the empathy superpower for evil (6:00)
• Using the storytelling for evil (8:14)
• Navigating Righteous Path of Product Management (13:20)
• Using the planning superpower for evil (17:00)
• Avoiding stakeholders that get in your way (20:15)
• Why shouldn't we pursue the dark side of product management (22:00)
• How do you know when your employees are looking for impact but doing it in a self serving way - how to stop it from happening (27:00)
• Balance between short and long term product decisions (31:30)
• Todd’s talks about how the Nintendo Wii is a good example of ethical product management (36:30)
• Key takeaways (38:00)

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