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The AI Fundamentalists

The AI Fundamentalists

By: Dr. Andrew Clark & Sid Mangalik
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A podcast about the fundamentals of safe and resilient modeling systems behind the AI that impacts our lives and our businesses.

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  • Linear programming: Building smarter AI agents from the fundamentals, part 3
    Jul 8 2025

    We continue with our series about building agentic AI systems from the ground up and for desired accuracy. In this episode, we explore linear programming and optimization methods that enable reliable decision-making within constraints.

    Show notes:

    • Linear programming allows us to solve problems with multiple constraints, like finding optimal flights that meet budget requirements
    • The Lagrange multiplier method helps find optimal solutions within constraints by reformulating utility functions
    • Combinatorial optimization handles discrete choices like selecting specific flights rather than continuous variables
    • Dynamic programming techniques break complex problems into manageable subproblems to find solutions efficiently
    • Mixed integer programming combines continuous variables (like budget) with discrete choices (like flights)
    • Neurosymbolic approaches potentially offer conversational interfaces with the reliability of mathematical solvers
    • Unlike pattern-matching LLMs, mathematical optimization guarantees solutions that respect user constraints

    Make sure you check out Part 1: Mechanism design and Part 2: Utility functions. In the next episode, we'll pull all of the components from these three episodes to demonstrate a complete travel agent AI implementation with code examples and governance considerations.

    What we're reading:

    • Burn Book - Kara Swisher, March 2025
    • Signal and the Noise - Nate Silver, 2012
    • Leadership in Turbulent Times - Doris Kearns Goodwin



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    30 mins
  • Utility functions: Building smarter AI agents from the fundamentals, part 2
    Jun 12 2025

    The hosts look at utility functions as the mathematical basis for making AI systems. They use the example of a travel agent that doesn’t get tired and can be increased indefinitely to meet increasing customer demand. They also discuss the difference between this structured, economic-based approach with the problems of using large language models for multi-step tasks.

    This episode is part 2 of our series about building smarter AI agents from the fundamentals. Listen to Part 1 about mechanism design HERE.

    Show notes:

    • Discussing the current AI landscape where companies are discovering implementation is harder than anticipated
    • Introducing the travel agent use case requiring ingestion, reasoning, execution, and feedback capabilities
    • Explaining why LLMs aren't designed for optimization tasks despite their conversational abilities
    • Breaking down utility functions from economic theory as a way to quantify user preferences
    • Exploring concepts like indifference curves and marginal rates of substitution for preference modeling
    • Examining four cases of utility relationships: independent goods, substitutes, complements, and diminishing returns
    • Highlighting how mathematical optimization provides explainability and guarantees that LLMs cannot
    • Setting up for future episodes that will detail the technical implementation of utility-based agents

    Subscribe so that you don't miss the next episode. In part 3, Andrew and Sid will explain linear programming and other optimization techniques to build upon these utility functions and create truly personalized travel experiences.


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    42 mins
  • Mechanism design: Building smarter AI agents from the fundamentals, Part 1
    May 20 2025

    What if we've been approaching AI agents all wrong? While the tech world obsesses over larger language models (LLMs) and prompt engineering, there'a a foundational approach that could revolutionize how we build trustworthy AI systems: mechanism design.

    This episode kicks off an exciting series where we're building AI agents "the hard way"—using principles from game theory and microeconomics to create systems with predictable, governable behavior. Rather than hoping an LLM can magically handle complex multi-step processes like booking travel, Sid and Andrew explore how to design the rules of the game so that even self-interested agents produce optimal outcomes.

    Drawing from our conversation with Dr. Michael Zarham (Episode 32), we break down why LLM-based agents struggle with transparency and governance. The "surface area" for errors expands dramatically when you can't explain how decisions are made across multiple steps. Instead, mechanism design creates clear states with defined optimization parameters at each stage—making the entire system more reliable and accountable.

    We explore the famous Prisoner's Dilemma to illustrate how individual incentives can work against collective benefits without proper system design. Then we introduce the Vickrey-Clark-Groves mechanism, which ensures AI agents truthfully reveal preferences and actively participate in multi-step processes—critical properties for enterprise applications.

    Beyond technical advantages, this approach offers something profound: a way to preserve humanity in increasingly automated systems. By explicitly designing for values, fairness, and social welfare, we're not just building better agents—we're ensuring AI serves human needs rather than replacing human thought.

    Subscribe now to follow our journey as we build an agentic travel system from first principles, applying these concepts to real business challenges. Have questions about mechanism design for AI? Send them our way for future episodes!

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    37 mins
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