• Ep 31 Enneagram 7: Finding freedom from the Type 7’s traps (Interview with Milton Stewart)
    Aug 9 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews Enneagram professional Milton Stewart (Enneagram Type 7) (TN USA) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. An Enneagram consultant, Milton is an internationally accredited Enneagram professional, Host of the Do It For The Gram Podcast, Founder of Kaizen Careers, Coaching and Consulting LLC, and IEA Global Board Member.

    In this interview, Milton opens up about his religious upbringing, his lifelong journey as a wisdom seeker, how he has come to a different understanding of (the Enneagram-based) Holy Ideas of Holy Wisdom and Holy Plan, learning to trust more and more that life will provide without his needing to compulsive plan ahead to ensure his good will come to him. Related, he shares about learning to "surrender" to healing and heartfelt connection and his coming to "know" God as a God that transcends any religion. Throughout this interview, Milton shares candidly about his grappling with the idea of being “superficial,” his recent revelations during a very recent trip to Egypt, his default tendency to positively reframe negatives as well as to imagine or plan for a good time and how those tendencies have masked his fears and past pain, keeping them from being healed. Milton also offers us useful advice and practices that have helped him to become more trusting and rooted, including the practice of breathing in and down, which has helped him to feel the constriction of fear in his body long enough for that fear to actually release.  

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn 

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    Find Milton using these links:

    • www.KaizenCareers.com

    • https://www.instagram.com/doitforthegrampodcast/ 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/milton-c-stewart-mba-b6162a45/  


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    54 mins
  • Ep 30 Enneagram 6: Transforming his fear and embodying steel-like courage (Interview with Shawn Ellison)
    Aug 8 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews Enneagram professional Shawn T. Ellison, MA, RN (Enneagram Type 6) (CA USA) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Shawn is a Christian Mystic, Certified Enneagram Coach, Certified Integral Coach, and Pediatric Oncology Nurse.

    In this interview, Shawn shares about the death of his dear childhood friend and its life-altering impact on him,  his unsettling mystical experience at age 17, his Dark Night of the Soul (along with other “dark nights”), and his powerful (and dismantling) conversion experience. He also shares about his journey with the Enneagram and how it helped him to map his spiritual and transformational experiences, including his felt experiences of the Enneagram’s Holy Ideas of Holy Faith and Holy Strength. Shawn opens up about childhood struggles with his family not appreciating or understanding his mystical path and later issues with Type 8 wife no longer connecting to him after his transformation.. He shares about feeling very small and fearful in his earlier years to coming, more recently, into a felt sense of courage–of feeling like “steel,” and invulnerable.

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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For a video version, watch this interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/hC89YyHCAow

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn 


    Find Shawn using these links:

    • https://www.shawntellison.com/

    • https://www.instagram.com/theunitiveschool/ 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawntellison/ 


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  • Ep 29 Enneagram 5: Grabbed by the heart (Interview with Dr. Khaled El Sherbini)
    Aug 7 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews fellow Enneagram professional Dr. Khaled El Sherbini (Type 5) (EGYPT) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Dr. Khaled El Sherbini is the founder and chairman of “Enneagram Egypt,” the first and largest IEA accredited Enneagram school in North Africa and the Middle East. He is also the founder of “BeCon, the Consciousness Academy,” a dedicated academy focusing on human development and spiritual transformation.


    In this interview, Dr. Khaled shares about journey as a “well qualified” Five with multiple academic and professional credentials with a mere “hobby” around this quest for metaphysics to experiencing a split that caused him to take a “jump” of faith. Listen in as he shares his powerful journey to the “Holy Land” where he felt that he was undergoing a time of “cleaning” from his old life and self. Dr. Khaled, who identifies as a Muslim, opens up about his studies of the Enneagram, Reiki, integral theory, and more. He describes his mystical journey –one that which took him literally “up the mountain” (the holy Mount Sinai) and discusses his shift from emphasizing intellectual knowing as knowing the highest order to opening the gate to the energy (and messiness) of his heart making way for personal revelation, how the Enneagram connecting the spiritual to the material has helped to map his journey, and how his journey of honoring the intelligence of his heart and gut has begun to allow for a deeper "gnosis" or knowing--and embodied and more compassionate wisdom.


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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For a video version, watch this interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/fmLCIYWldR4 

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn 

    Find Dr. Khaled using these links:

    • https://enneagramegypt.com/ 

    • https://www.valuematch.net/en/services/find-a-local-professional/details/31/242/khaled-elsherbini?start=24 

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    44 mins
  • Ep 28 Enneagram 4: Receiving loving-kindness & becoming "right-sized" (Interview w/ Michael Naylor)
    Aug 6 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews fellow Enneagram professional Michael Naylor, M.Ed., CCS, LADC, CPCC (Type 4) (ME, USA) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Michael is the CEO of The Maine Enneagram Center for Transformation and Well-Being and author of The Alchemy of the Enneagram in Transforming Addiction: A Guide for Professionals Helping Men Recover Their Lives.

    In this interview, Michael shares about his journey as a “recovering” Enneagram Type 4 and how knowledge of his Type supported him in compassionate “self observation”--viewing his inner experience with greater loving-kindness and equanimity, developing a greater sense of humor, learning how to truly process his “undigested” suffering, becoming “right-sized” and learning the distinction between feeling his feelings and creatively dramatizing his experience. Join us as Michael shares about his path of following his curiosity toward teachings and modalities that served him, finding people who could support him in gaining objectivity on his experiences, and learning to see the “movie” of his life for what it was. 

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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For a video version, watch the full interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/rLC1GBFzfsE 

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn 


    Find Michael using these links:

    • https://enneagrammaine.com/ 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-naylor-m-ed-cpcc-ladc-ccs-029868a/

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    53 mins
  • Ep 27 Enneagram 3: An Inward Journey toward More Authentic Connection (Interview with Flemming Christensen)
    Aug 5 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews esteemed Enneagram practitioner and a fellow Enneagram Type 3 Flemming Christensen (DENMARK) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Flemming is the founder of several international organizations, including Think About It, Enneagram Institute of Denmark, and the Enneagram Next Level. He has authored multiple books, his most recent being The Enneagram: Why your Blind Type Matters.

    In this interview, Flemming shares about his journey as an Enneagram Type 3 and how through the Enneagram as well as Zen Buddhist practices of mindfulness and the Inner Observer he has come to experience greater love, connection, meaning, purpose, and presence. He has learned to slow down and pause more and he has come to appreciate the value of his heartfelt contributions to the greater community–not only today’s community but to the next generation and those generations yet to come.

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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For a full video version, watch this interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/cQdj8oFQOvg

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn 

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    Find Flemming using these links:

    • https://www.flemmingchristensen.com/ 
    • https://www.enneagramnextlevel.com/
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    54 mins
  • Ep 26 Enneagram 2: Unplugging from others to come home to myself (Interview with Renee Siegel)
    Aug 4 2023


    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews fellow Enneagram professional Renée Siegel, MA, LISAC, MAC, HHP, CPIC, ACC (Type 2) (USA) about her personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. A mental health counselor and wellness practitioner for over 40 years, Renée is also Adjunct Faculty for The Narrative Enneagram & the co-author of Reclaiming YOU: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience.


    In this interview, Renée shares about her journey as an Enneagram Type 2 and how knowledge of her Type has resulted in multiple paradigm shifts in her life, impacting not only how she serves others but also how she tends to her own inner world–checking in routinely with a 3-centered practice, Buddhist mindfulness, and tenderhearted curiosity. Hear stories of how Renée’s inner work has helped her in setting boundaries and in withholding advice–sometimes even when advice or counsel is desired of her!


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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.


    For a video version, watch this interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/qeDsEg4SFL4 


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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    • www.evolvingenneagram.com

    • IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    • youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    • https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

      Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn

    Find Renée using these links:

    • https://urpurepotential.com/ 

    • https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/directory/renee-siegel/ 

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    51 mins
  • Ep 25 Enneagram 1: From Correcting Error to Facilitating Wholeness (Interview with Rania Hussein)
    Aug 3 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews friend and fellow Enneagram professional Rania Hussein (Enneagram Type 1) (Cairo, Egypt) about her personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Rania is an IEA Accredited Professional & the Co-Founder of Wesal, an Enneagram organization devoted to wellness based in Egypt.

    In this interview, Rania shares about her spiritual journey as an Enneagram Type 1 who is Muslim whose journey has evolved to incorporate more Sufi and other spiritual influences, including participation in Evolving Enneagram’s interspiritual contemplative Enneagram practice community. Hear about Rania’s painful wake up calls, wherein she recognized the difference between following the letter of the law and following the spirit of the law with respect to her own spiritual journey. Rania’s path as a Type 1 shifts from one of being overly rigid and critical of self and others to one of bringing greater compassion (first to self then to others) and the kind of warmth and presence that invites others to lead with their best. You'll get to hear Rania conclude our interview with a prayer that is most dear to her heart, which she shares with us first in English then in Arabic.

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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For an audio version, find Episode 24 of the Evolving Enneagram Interspiritual Podcast: https://evolvingenneagram.com/evolving-enneagram-podcast 

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    www.evolvingenneagram.com

    IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn


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    49 mins
  • Ep 24 Enneagram 9 - From Going with the Flow to Uncovering My Life Force (Interview with Keith Kristich)
    Aug 2 2023

    Listen in as Evolving Enneagram Founder Nhien Vuong interviews fellow Enneagram professional Keith Kristich (Type 9) (NY, USA) about his personal, spiritual journey with the Enneagram. Keith is a contemplative writer and the Founder of Closer Than Breath.In this interview, Keith shares about his conscious, contemplative Type 9 journey from slogging through the Type 9’s passion of “sloth” (including procrastination, going with flow, and self forgetting) into the Enneagram 9 virtue of engaged “Right Action,” which includes actually taking action (rather than just thinking about ideas) and discovering within himself his inner spark / life force. Along the way, he discovers the real meaning of humility–and its not what 9s normally think it is!

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    This interview is part of a 9-part Transformation By Type Interview series in which Rev Nhien Vuong interviews 9 Enneagram professionals from different spiritual traditions around the globe about their personal, spiritual journeys with the Enneagram.

    For a video version, watch this interview on our Evolving Enneagram YouTube channel: ⁠https://youtu.be/Afrt9nHw10c

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    Learn more about Evolving Enneagram:

    www.evolvingenneagram.com

    IG: @evolvingenneagram  

    youtube.com/@evolvingenneagram.com 

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/evolving-enneagram/ 

    Evolving Enneagram’s mission is to transform human ecosystems for a more compassionate and awakened world. While Evolving Enneagram is formed as an LLC, we make an intentional effort to provide many of our offerings on a contribution basis, including our Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram (CPE) groups. If these teachings nourish you and you wish to Pay It Forward, please use this button to contribute to our work! https://bit.ly/3rXq5Xn


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    Find Keith using the links below:

    • https://closerthanbreath.com/

    • https://keithkristich.com/newsletter/



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    42 mins