The Next Conversation

Argue Less, Talk More

By: Jefferson Fisher

Narrated by: Jefferson Fisher

THE INSTANT NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER

From communication expert Jefferson Fisher, the definitive book on making your next conversation the one that changes everything

No matter who you’re talking to, The Next Conversation gives you immediately actionable strategies and phrases that will forever change how you communicate. Jefferson Fisher, trial lawyer and one of the leading voices on real-world communication, offers a tried-and-true framework that will show you how to transform your life and your relationships by improving your next conversation.

Fisher has gained millions of followers through short, simple, practical videos teaching people how to argue less and talk more. Whether it’s handling a heated conversation, dealing with a difficult personality, or standing your ground with confidence, his down-to-earth teachings have helped countless people navigate life’s toughest situations. Now for the first time, Fisher has distilled his three-part communication system (Say it with control, Say it with confidence, Say it to connect) that can easily be applied to any situation.

You will learn:

• Why you should never "win" an argument
• How to assert yourself and communicate with intention
• How to set boundaries and frame conversations
• Why saying less is often more
• How to overcome conflict with connection

The Next Conversation will give you practical phrases that will lead to powerful results, from breaking down defensiveness in a hard talk with a family member to finding your own assertive voice at the boardroom conference table. Your every word matters, and by controlling how you communicate every day, you will create waves of positive impact that will resonate throughout your relationships to last a lifetime.

Everything you want to say, and how you want to say it, can be found in The Next Conversation.

©2025 Jefferson Fisher (P)2025 Penguin Audio

Critic reviews

“Jefferson Fisher combines his unique expertise and extraordinary ability to distill evidence-based approaches into easy-to-remember tools that work the first time and every time toward more effective dialogue. His work and this book stand to positively transform the way that you relate to others. Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.”—Andrew Huberman, PhD, professor, Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine, creator of the Huberman Lab podcast

"We all have difficult people in our lives and we all need to have difficult conversations. Knowing exactly what to say when the pressure runs high is where we get stuck. No one is better than Jefferson Fisher to show you how to start. The Next Conversation gives you the tools to change your life, one conversation at a time."—Mel Robbins, #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Let Them Theory and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast

"A special book that will show you how to approach every conversation and negotiation with confidence and clarity. Jefferson Fisher has spent years learning how communication really works, and he is the real-world guide you need for your difficult conversations in the boardroom and at home. If you are a student of what makes people tick, you need this book."—Chris Voss, internationally bestselling author of Never Split the Difference and Founder of The Black Swan Group

Jefferson is talking to me.

I know he really isn't talking just to me... I realize that there are a lot of people who will think the same as I do. he has a way of taking situations and explaining how to change habits we have to make conversations better. He makes it applicable to real life situation maybe not easy but doable. I have followed & listen to him for years on social media. I work with college students and have shared what i have learned from him along with his instagram account. but this book was amazing... life changing! Thank you Jefferson for this gift!

An Outstanding Book - A must read/listen

I have never left a review on a book before. It feels impossible to finish this book without leaving a review. Jefferson, you have changed my life. Thank you.

A must read!

Jefferson makes real and relatable! I loved it so much that I also ordered the print copy so I can make notes as I listen…again! New nuggets with each listen!

Had Me Hooked From The Start!

This book is everything I’ve been wanting!!!! Easy how-to tools to change my life one conversation at a time !

Concise and direct

Loved every second of this book. Made it easy to understand and keep my attention.

This guy is spot on!!

What an amazing book about how to have controlled conversations.
A must read for everyone! A+++

Easily Digestible

I have followed Jefferson on IG for a little while now. This book was highly anticipated, and it did not disappoint. Jefferson's approach makes these concepts easily digestible and immediately usable. I love how his tips for better communication can be applied quite literally in your next conversation. I also love that he was the narrator because I enjoy his calming voice and cadence.

Engaging

Clear, concise, very helpful in understanding good communication skills. Thank you Jefferson Fischer
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Must Read!

I’ve been looking forward to the release of this book, and it didn’t disappoint. It provides a lot of helpful tools for improving communication. I found it engaging and finished listening to it quickly. I’ll likely revisit it in the future and would recommend it to others.

Information anyone can use

I've followed Jefferson on Instagram for a while. This book is everything I expected it would be. Full of great tips and down to earth. Congratulations, Jefferson!