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Argue Less, Talk More
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Jefferson Fisher
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THE INSTANT NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER
From communication expert Jefferson Fisher, the definitive book on making your next conversation the one that changes everything
No matter who you’re talking to, The Next Conversation gives you immediately actionable strategies and phrases that will forever change how you communicate. Jefferson Fisher, trial lawyer and one of the leading voices on real-world communication, offers a tried-and-true framework that will show you how to transform your life and your relationships by improving your next conversation.
Fisher has gained millions of followers through short, simple, practical videos teaching people how to argue less and talk more. Whether it’s handling a heated conversation, dealing with a difficult personality, or standing your ground with confidence, his down-to-earth teachings have helped countless people navigate life’s toughest situations. Now for the first time, Fisher has distilled his three-part communication system (Say it with control, Say it with confidence, Say it to connect) that can easily be applied to any situation.
You will learn:
- Why you should never "win" an argument
- How to assert yourself and communicate with intention
- How to set boundaries and frame conversations
- Why saying less is often more
- How to overcome conflict with connection
The Next Conversation will give you practical phrases that will lead to powerful results, from breaking down defensiveness in a hard talk with a family member to finding your own assertive voice at the boardroom conference table. Your every word matters, and by controlling how you communicate every day, you will create waves of positive impact that will resonate throughout your relationships to last a lifetime.
Everything you want to say, and how you want to say it, can be found in The Next Conversation.
©2025 Jefferson Fisher (P)2025 Penguin AudioListeners also enjoyed...
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Critic reviews
“Jefferson Fisher combines his unique expertise and extraordinary ability to distill evidence-based approaches into easy-to-remember tools that work the first time and every time toward more effective dialogue. His work and this book stand to positively transform the way that you relate to others. Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.”—Andrew Huberman, PhD, professor, Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine, creator of the Huberman Lab podcast
"We all have difficult people in our lives and we all need to have difficult conversations. Knowing exactly what to say when the pressure runs high is where we get stuck. No one is better than Jefferson Fisher to show you how to start. The Next Conversation gives you the tools to change your life, one conversation at a time."—Mel Robbins, #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Let Them Theory and host of The Mel Robbins Podcast
"A special book that will show you how to approach every conversation and negotiation with confidence and clarity. Jefferson Fisher has spent years learning how communication really works, and he is the real-world guide you need for your difficult conversations in the boardroom and at home. If you are a student of what makes people tick, you need this book."—Chris Voss, internationally bestselling author of Never Split the Difference and Founder of The Black Swan Group
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- Length: 4 hrs and 20 mins
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Unlock the communication skills that will transform you into a confident, engaging conversationalist—whether in social settings, networking events, or professional environments. Does it seem like others effortlessly connect while you’re stuck in small talk? Do networking events fill you with dread? You’re not alone! Research shows that 85% of job success comes from strong communication skills, yet many struggle in this vital area.
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Master Conversations
- By M.Rauch on 03-25-25
By: Deborah Meyers
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Atomic Habits
- An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones
- By: James Clear
- Narrated by: James Clear
- Length: 5 hrs and 35 mins
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No matter your goals, Atomic Habits offers a proven framework for improving - every day. James Clear, one of the world's leading experts on habit formation, reveals practical strategies that will teach you exactly how to form good habits, break bad ones, and master the tiny behaviors that lead to remarkable results. If you're having trouble changing your habits, the problem isn't you. The problem is your system. Bad habits repeat themselves again and again not because you don't want to change, but because you have the wrong system for change.
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Author went overboard hawking his site
- By CHughes on 06-25-19
By: James Clear
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The 5 Second Rule
- Transform your Life, Work, and Confidence with Everyday Courage
- By: Mel Robbins
- Narrated by: Mel Robbins
- Length: 7 hrs and 35 mins
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How to enrich your life and destroy doubt in five seconds. Throughout your life, you've had parents, coaches, teachers, friends, and mentors who have pushed you to be better than your excuses and bigger than your fears. What if the secret to having the confidence and courage to enrich your life and work is simply knowing how to push yourself?
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I turned it off after an hour.
- By Zac on 04-08-17
By: Mel Robbins
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Discuta menos, dialogue mais (Portuguese Edition)
- Como transformar suas próximas conversas
- By: Jefferson Fisher
- Narrated by: Nando Moretzsohn
- Length: 7 hrs and 37 mins
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Não importa com quem você esteja falando, Discuta menos, dialogue mais apresenta formulações e estratégias que mudarão para sempre a maneira como você se comunica. Uma das principais referências no campo da comunicação, o advogado Jefferson Fisher desenvolveu, testou e comprovou uma estrutura para você aprimorar conversas e transformar seus relacionamentos e sua vida.
By: Jefferson Fisher
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Talking to Strangers
- What We Should Know About the People We Don't Know
- By: Malcolm Gladwell
- Narrated by: Malcolm Gladwell
- Length: 8 hrs and 42 mins
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How did Fidel Castro fool the CIA for a generation? Why did Neville Chamberlain think he could trust Adolf Hitler? Why are campus sexual assaults on the rise? Do television sitcoms teach us something about the way we relate to each other that isn't true? While tackling these questions, Malcolm Gladwell was not solely writing a book for the page. He was also producing for the ear. In the audiobook version of Talking to Strangers, you’ll hear the voices of people he interviewed - scientists, criminologists, military psychologists.
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Enjoyable listen with some facts incorrect
- By Jim on 09-11-19
By: Malcolm Gladwell
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Careless People
- A Cautionary Tale of Power, Greed, and Lost Idealism
- By: Sarah Wynn-Williams
- Narrated by: Sarah Wynn-Williams
- Length: 13 hrs and 16 mins
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From trips on private jets and encounters with world leaders to shocking accounts of misogyny and double standards behind the scenes, this searing memoir exposes both the personal and the political fallout when unfettered power and a rotten company culture take hold. In a gripping and often absurd narrative where a few people carelessly hold the world in their hands, this eye-opening memoir reveals what really goes on among the global elite.
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Only a few hours in
- By Cody Konior on 03-24-25
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The Let Them Theory
- A Life-Changing Tool That Millions of People Can’t Stop Talking About
- By: Mel Robbins
- Narrated by: Mel Robbins
- Length: 10 hrs and 38 mins
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In her latest groundbreaking book, The Let Them Theory, Mel Robbins—New York Times bestselling author and one of the world's most respected experts on motivation, confidence, and mindset—teaches you how to stop wasting energy on what you can't control and start focusing on what truly matters: YOU. Your happiness. Your goals. Your life.
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Stick to podcasts with real pros
- By Nicole M. Johnson on 12-30-24
By: Mel Robbins
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How to Win Friends & Influence People
- By: Dale Carnegie
- Narrated by: Andrew MacMillan
- Length: 7 hrs and 15 mins
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You can go after the job you want...and get it! You can take the job you have...and improve it! You can take any situation you're in...and make it work for you!
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This is well worth listening too! Main points are.
- By Ralph on 10-21-11
By: Dale Carnegie
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The Anxious Generation
- How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness
- By: Jonathan Haidt
- Narrated by: Sean Pratt, Jonathan Haidt
- Length: 10 hrs and 32 mins
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In The Anxious Generation, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt lays out the facts about the epidemic of teen mental illness that hit many countries at the same time. He then investigates the nature of childhood, including why children need play and independent exploration to mature into competent, thriving adults. Haidt shows how the “play-based childhood” began to decline in the 1980s, and how it was finally wiped out by the arrival of the “phone-based childhood” in the early 2010s.
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A Parenting Book for the 2020's
- By Looks and feels great. Even has little pads to prevent scratching on 03-29-24
By: Jonathan Haidt
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Don't Believe Everything You Think (Expanded Edition)
- Why Your Thinking Is the Beginning & End of Suffering
- By: Joseph Nguyen
- Narrated by: Joseph Nguyen
- Length: 2 hrs and 36 mins
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Although pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. This book offers a completely new paradigm and understanding of where our human experience comes from, allowing us to end our own suffering and create how we want to feel at any moment. Don't Believe Everything You Think is not about rewiring your brain, rewriting your past, or positive thinking. We cannot solve our problems with the same level of consciousness that created them. Tactics are temporary. An expansion of consciousness is permanent.
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Better Title: Don’t Think
- By Acacia Gibson on 12-29-24
By: Joseph Nguyen
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Open When
- A Companion for Life’s Twists & Turns
- By: Julie Smith
- Narrated by: Julie Smith
- Length: 7 hrs and 42 mins
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In this essential guide, Dr. Julie teaches her millions of readers and clients how to navigate life’s toughest occurrences while they’re happening, rather than moments or years after the fact. What if we can learn to harness our emotions and stay present so we can process and choose how to respond to a situation? Picking up where Why Has Nobody Told Me This Before? leaves off, Dr. Julie shares the research-backed concepts and powerful skills we can use to weather our most vulnerable moments.
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My goodness, Dr J out did her first book.
- By Dan Brook on 01-07-25
By: Julie Smith
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How to Talk to Anyone
- 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships
- By: Leil Lowndes
- Narrated by: Joyce Bean, Leil Lowndes
- Length: 8 hrs and 59 mins
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What is that magic quality that makes some people instantly loved and respected? Everyone wants to be their friend (or, if single, their lover!) In business, they rise swiftly to the top of the corporate ladder. What is their "Midas touch?"
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Good info, but painful to listen to
- By Scott on 09-19-16
By: Leil Lowndes
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Unfu*k Yourself
- Get Out of Your Head and into Your Life
- By: Gary John Bishop
- Narrated by: Gary John Bishop
- Length: 3 hrs and 24 mins
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Are you tired of feeling f*cked up? If you are, Gary John Bishop has the answer. In this straightforward handbook, he gives you the tools and advice you need to demolish the slag weighing you down and become the truly unf--ked version of yourself. "Wake up to the miracle you are," he directs. "Here's what you've forgotten: You're a f--king miracle of being." It isn't other people that are standing in your way; it isn't even your circumstances that are blocking your ability to thrive. It's yourself and the negative self-talk you keep telling yourself.
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Now I'm F'd for sure!
- By Kerry Strong on 08-24-17
By: Gary John Bishop
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Cues
- Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication
- By: Vanessa Van Edwards
- Narrated by: Vanessa Van Edwards
- Length: 8 hrs and 1 min
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What makes someone charismatic? Why do some captivate a room, while others have trouble managing a small meeting? What makes some ideas spread, while other good ones fall by the wayside? If you have ever been interrupted in meetings, overlooked for career opportunities or had your ideas ignored, your cues may be the problem - and the solution.
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I wish I had chosen a hard copy of the book…
- By JenMcL on 07-14-22
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- Winfred
- 03-22-25
Jefferson is talking to me.
I know he really isn't talking just to me... I realize that there are a lot of people who will think the same as I do. he has a way of taking situations and explaining how to change habits we have to make conversations better. He makes it applicable to real life situation maybe not easy but doable. I have followed & listen to him for years on social media. I work with college students and have shared what i have learned from him along with his instagram account. but this book was amazing... life changing! Thank you Jefferson for this gift!
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- Emmanuel Omere
- 04-04-25
An Outstanding Book - A must read/listen
I have never left a review on a book before. It feels impossible to finish this book without leaving a review. Jefferson, you have changed my life. Thank you.
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- Kate
- 03-22-25
A must read!
Jefferson makes real and relatable! I loved it so much that I also ordered the print copy so I can make notes as I listen…again! New nuggets with each listen!
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- Yamaris
- 04-07-25
Had Me Hooked From The Start!
This book is everything I’ve been wanting!!!! Easy how-to tools to change my life one conversation at a time !
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- Domsnonna22
- 03-31-25
Concise and direct
Loved every second of this book. Made it easy to understand and keep my attention.
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- Dotty
- 03-24-25
This guy is spot on!!
What an amazing book about how to have controlled conversations.
A must read for everyone! A+++
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- Paul B Merk
- 03-27-25
Easily Digestible
I have followed Jefferson on IG for a little while now. This book was highly anticipated, and it did not disappoint. Jefferson's approach makes these concepts easily digestible and immediately usable. I love how his tips for better communication can be applied quite literally in your next conversation. I also love that he was the narrator because I enjoy his calming voice and cadence.
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- Gary J. Valentine
- 03-30-25
Engaging
Clear, concise, very helpful in understanding good communication skills. Thank you Jefferson Fischer
Continue your talent on strategies to become better
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- Natalia Nashville
- 03-28-25
Must Read!
I’ve been looking forward to the release of this book, and it didn’t disappoint. It provides a lot of helpful tools for improving communication. I found it engaging and finished listening to it quickly. I’ll likely revisit it in the future and would recommend it to others.
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- Kelly
- 03-29-25
Information anyone can use
I've followed Jefferson on Instagram for a while. This book is everything I expected it would be. Full of great tips and down to earth. Congratulations, Jefferson!
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