The Myth of Psychotherapy
Mental Healing as Religion, Rhetoric, and Repression
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Thomas Szasz
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Until recent years, “bad” and “immoral” were the terms used to describe people who are now referred to as “sick” and “in need of treatment.” Moral and religious perspective has been replaced by medical and therapeutic rhetoric. It is little wonder why the world is plagued by legions of rapists, drug users, murderers, thieves, and child abusers, all of whom are now referred to as having one form or another of “addiction” and are thus either “sick” or suffering from “mental illness.” Accordingly, modern psychotherapists claim that these are in need of specialized “therapy” or “treatment” to help them “cope with their disease.” Moral relativism, bolstered by psychotherapy, has prevailed over the traditional ideas of self-control, individual responsibility, and moral culpability. Thomas Szasz moves to demythologize psychotherapy itself in a most provocative manner.
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- The Ideas That Have Shaped Our World
- By: Philip Stokes
- Narrated by: Steven Crossley
- Length: 8 hrs and 12 mins
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This engaging and accessible book invites the listener to explore the questions and arguments of philosophy through the work of 100 of the greatest thinkers within the Western intellectual tradition - covering philosophical, scientific, political, and religious thought over a period of 2500 years.
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Unpretentious, honest, with a big picture
- By Mike S. on 05-29-17
By: Philip Stokes
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Irrationality
- A History of the Dark Side of Reason
- By: Justin E. H. Smith
- Narrated by: Jeff Harding
- Length: 13 hrs and 35 mins
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Discovering that reason is the defining feature of our species, we named ourselves the “rational animal”. But is this flattering story itself rational? In this sweeping account of irrationality from antiquity to today - from the fifth-century BC murder of Hippasus for revealing the existence of irrational numbers to the rise of Twitter mobs and the election of Donald Trump - Justin Smith says the evidence suggests the opposite.
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A good brain workout
- By ThomasC on 04-09-19
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The History of Philosophy
- By: A. C. Grayling
- Narrated by: Neil Gardner
- Length: 28 hrs and 6 mins
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The story of philosophy is an epic tale, spanning civilizations and continents. It explores some of the most creative minds in history. But not since the long-popular classic by Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy, published in 1945, has there been a comprehensive and entertaining single-volume history of this great, intellectual, world-shaping journey.
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A much needed update to Bertrand Russell's classic
- By Michael on 06-27-20
By: A. C. Grayling
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Collected Papers on Analytical Psychology
- By: Carl J. Jung
- Narrated by: Robert Bethune
- Length: 13 hrs and 33 mins
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Carl Jung's Collected Papers on Analytical Psychology gathers in one volume some of his most important and influential shorter writings, and also some pieces that, from our perspective almost a century later, seem quaint or even idiosyncractic. The volume provides wonderful insight into his mind and thought as he reached a position of prominence in the world of psychoanalysis.
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Case studies
- By August on 08-05-18
By: Carl J. Jung
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Deep Thought
- 42 Fantastic Quotes That Define Philosphy
- By: Gary Cox
- Narrated by: Richard Mitchley
- Length: 7 hrs and 6 mins
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As Douglas Adams points out, if there is no final answer to the question "what is the meaning of life?" 42 is as good or bad an answer as any other. Indeed, 42 quotes might be even better! Gary Cox guides us through 42 of the most misunderstood, misquoted, provocative, and significant quotes in the history of philosophy, providing witty and compelling commentary along the way.
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Best philosophy intro ever
- By Fabian on 04-14-18
By: Gary Cox
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One Simple Idea
- How Positive Thinking Reshaped Modern Life
- By: Mitch Horowitz
- Narrated by: Mitch Horowitz
- Length: 10 hrs and 35 mins
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From the millions-strong audiences of Oprah and The Secret to the mass-media ministries of evangelical figures like Joel Osteen and T. D. Jakes, to the motivational bestsellers and New Age seminars to the twelve-step programs and support groups of the recovery movement and to the rise of positive psychology and stress-reduction therapies, this idea - to think positively - is metaphysics morphed into mass belief. This is the biography of that belief.
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Outstanding Popular History of New Thought!
- By Robert Ready on 01-11-14
By: Mitch Horowitz
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Theory of Psychoanalysis
- By: Carl Jung
- Narrated by: Robert Bethune
- Length: 5 hrs and 14 mins
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Although the theories presented in this book, a 1915 edition of the lectures Jung presented at Fordham University, are now thoroughly outdated, this book is still a fascinating glimpse of Jung's mind at a crucial time in his life. Just three years previously, he had struck out on his own, publishing his Wandlungen und Symbole der Libido, known in English as Psychology of the Unconscious.
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Great book for beginner Jung explorer
- By Reza on 04-25-15
By: Carl Jung
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What Are We Doing Here?
- By: Marilynne Robinson
- Narrated by: Carrington MacDuffie
- Length: 11 hrs and 7 mins
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Marilynne Robinson has plumbed the human spirit in her renowned novels, including Lila and Gilead, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Critics Circle Award. In this new essay collection she trains her incisive mind on our modern political climate and the mysteries of faith. Whether she is investigating how the work of great thinkers about America, like Ralph Waldo Emerson and Alexis de Tocqueville, inform our political consciousness or discussing how beauty informs and disciplines daily life, Robinson's peerless prose and boundless humanity are on full display.
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Unpersuasive and a bit repetitive
- By Adam Shields on 03-07-18
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- Seligman'sDog
- 11-16-22
I like this narrator.
This narrator is not whiny & inappropriately over-expressive like other Narrator. His faint southern accent is humanizing without being distracting, snd goes well with Szasz writing. i believe Szasz remains the only honest, competent psychiatrist who ever lived, and the only one worth reading.
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- Anonymous User
- 05-21-20
A true diagnosis of psychotherapy.
Thank you Dr. Szasz. Your contributions to the field will hopefully someday be a turning point in psychology history. You are greatly missed. This is a must read for all those aspiring to become psychology professionals.
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- Jack Frasier
- 03-14-19
great info on the reformation against nut houses
excellent info from the mind of Thomas szasz about why mental institutions are bogus entities
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- Garth S. Dixson
- 01-24-20
Absolutely fascinating listen!
If you have ever questioned the validity or effectiveness of psychotherapy then you should listen to this audio book. More importantly, if you have never questioned either, then you must listen to this audio book. Szasz lays out that psychotherapy is not medical but rather religious in nature. It is at best essentially pastoral caring and not to be confused with medicinal curing. The danger here is that acceptance by Western governments of the scientific and medical certainty of modern psychiatry has created therapeutic States. Modern psychotherapists have the power to deny freedom via involuntary commitment to the potentially innocent or to set free the potentially guilty via expert testimony in court. Szasz lays out the intellectual pedigree of psychotherapy and proves that its practitioners are unworthy of, and therefore should not be entrusted with, such power.
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- NessMcGowan
- 02-29-20
Great work, solid performance, hissy mastering
The mastering on the audio is excessively trebly, making for an almost hissy-sounding recording. I could correct this with an eq, but wish I hadn't had to.
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- Luigi Grimaldi
- 11-13-14
Libertarianism & rational thought meets Psychiatry
Where does The Myth of Psychotherapy rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?
This ranks in the Top 10 so far.
Who was your favorite character and why?
The author is the foremost and favourite character as his no-nonsense approach to psychiatry relies on science and drugs and not "talking."
What does Robin Lawson bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?
His presentation is very good and I would not nearly enjoy the book if read. The material is not dry but is far better listened to much like a professorial oratory.
If you were to make a film of this book, what would the tag line be?
"You're crazy, so what?"
Any additional comments?
I enjoyed Dr. Szasz's rational take-down of the cocaine addict and moronic Freud. How can anyone, after reading this book, take Freudian theory seriously?
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- Anthony Caffy
- 09-04-20
Interesting approach
I was a bit skeptical regarding this audiobook but at the end I am quite satisfied. I really enjoyed the part on Jung, I really could understand what separated him from Freud. I recommend it.
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- Dee
- 10-10-21
I did not get my degree, and I'm jealous.
Based upon the recommendation of Dr. J. Peterson, I gave this author a try. The author has done a fine job at historical research, however he has missed the mark in affording an objective analysis of his findings. He does enjoy tangential rhetoric in describing why Psycology is a lie, as he sets the works of Freud and Nitze to an inferno, without pausing to peel the onion of such thinkers. I believe that his books were written as the ultimate trolling of clinical psycology and its roots in religion as a pseudo science. If you can finish the book, without the urge to throw it down and have a tantrum, then the book has done its job and you will be more astute in the application of your daily practice.
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- Andrew
- 09-12-20
Dangerously well spoken misinformation
An eloquent explanation of things such as semantics which are largely irrelevant to the topics of both bodily and mental treatments. At other times a mischaracterization of the understandings psychiatrists try to convey. More likely to bias those who aren’t informed about mental health than to enlighten anyone.
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- Dr. Amen-Ra
- 08-11-14
SZASZ SULLIES PSYCHOTHERAPY UNJUSTLY
The mind is my métier, my most absorbing intellectual occupation. An ambition to understand the mind of Man (and mine own) motivated my initial interest in Medicine. Upon entering medical school “under the influence” of such Neuro-Psychiatrists as Dr. Richard Restak and Nobel Laureate Dr. Eric Kandel, I reasoned that Neurology, Neurosurgery, or Psychiatry would place me in a prime position to purse my explorations of the mind and the mental maladies of mankind. Settling upon Psychiatry as most suitable, I soon came to appreciate the degree to which matters of the mind were marginalized by modern Psychiatry, molecules and medicine being the basis of most discourse in the discipline. I knew that I had made an error which would require rectification. After immersing myself for several years in independent study and self-reflection I became intrigued with Existentialism and Thanatology (the study of death) and took a Master’s degree in the latter discipline. In addition to being an author and researcher, I am an existentially-oriented Analyst in private practice. The purpose of this pronouncement and the preceding personalized preamble is to declare my distaste for Psychiatry owing to its domination by drugs, its defense of dubious diagnoses, and its overarching inclination to “over-medicalize” or “pathologize” innumerable aspects of the ordinary human condition. In short, I am inclined to agree with the central critique of Psychotherapy to which Dr. Szasz subscribes. This inclination is incomplete albeit. Dr. Szasz makes several important points in his highly informative opus. Piteously, the positive attributes of his exposition are not entirely original. Sympathetic souls can certainly appreciate his candid chronicling of the horrendous history of Psychiatry. [However, Investigative Journalist Robert Whitaker does a far better job of this in his “Mad in America”, available in audiobook.] He castigates the character of Freud and condemns the credulity of our entire culture for collectively countenancing such obvious inanity for so long. [I echoed this argument in my analysis of Freud’s “Interpretation of Dreams”; see previous book review kindly posted on Audible’s site.]
Now for the not-so-positive points. Dr. Szasz restates his argument (expostulated in his classic “The Myth of Mental Illness”) that an ‘illness of the mind’ is a misnomer, a mere metaphor that is objectively untrue. Only physical illness is actual illness. He laments that language and its misuse leads to dangerous deceptions and duplicity and that this is true of the psychotherapeutic professions. He argues that Psychotherapy is not scientific but essentially spiritual in essence and that Therapists should accept this semantic signifier instead of purely pretending to practice Medicine or purporting to provide healing therapies. So, Szasz maintains that it is impossible to heal a mind; it is only possible to change a mind. While such conceptions may seem conservative to Szasz, they seem rather radical and overwrought in the estimation of this auditor. Is it absurd to accept that suffering can be as severe when psychological in origin as when afflicting an area of the body? Is pain more profound when palpable, when its nature is physical rather than psychological? Is it absurd to suppose that the psyche is subject physical, experiential, and ideational influences alike? Do not molecules manifestly modulate our moods? Do not deleterious drugs damage our minds, our memories, our very sense of self and reality? Cannot words, whether wise, warm, or weighty, often attenuate or eradicate emotional anguish? Is this not what some “Psychotherapists” earnestly endeavor to do? And when such Psychotherapists succeeded in assuaging another individual’s inner anguish, anxiety, depression, or grief—as clients commonly confess that we do—is it erroneous to regard such transactions as “therapeutic”, as “healing”? If the principles upon which such healing rests are rationally refined, systematically studied, diligently practiced and perfected, is it preposterous to pronounce such professionals “Therapists”?
Something must also be said for Philosophy. Dr. Szasz is a very learned scholar, steeped in history, literature, and the philosophy of science and ideas. The vehemence with which he rejects the notion of psychogenic suffering and psychological “treatment” suggests that he subscribes to radical dualism. If this be so, he should state it explicitly instead of (ostensibly) assuming that his audience assents to this view. Many modern men and women of learning are monistic, I imagine, considering mind to be a manifestation of matter (or vice versa). Conceptually constricting therapy to encompass only the physical realm, declaring suffering to be solely somatic and qualitatively distinct from disorders of the mind is arbitrary and conflicts with abundant empirical evidence and scientific studies too numerous to name. Finally, Dr. Szasz recommends that Psychotherapy be regarded as rhetoric. While I do not reject this denomination of our discipline, it is not irrational to regard it as (ideally) something more—something salubrious, something soterial, something scientific and, sometimes, sagacious. Is our society too lax in what it labels “therapeutic”? Yes. Are there demonstrable differences in the efficacy of diverse therapies and in the effectiveness of differentially skilled therapists? Of course. These are societal and professional problems that call for continual improvement in the provisioning of mental health care; they do not call for the dismantling of Psychotherapy as such.
Ironically, at the extreme end of his exposition, the enlightened Anti-Psychotherapist offers us an alternative appellation to employ in place of our ‘nonsensical nomenclature’. His suggested neologism is “Iatrology”. For someone who stresses the singular importance of semantics, of conceptual coherence and clarity of communication, this coinage is almost comical. I wonder if he realizes that the root ‘iatro’ originates etymologically from a Greek word signifying “physician”—or synonymously, “therapist”. Is this not the notion that he finds so noxious? The brain damage that certain psychotropic drugs and psychosurgical treatments have been documented to induce is defensibly described by some as “iatrogenic” in origin. [See Dr. Breggin’s bold and brilliant book, “Toxic Psychiatry”.] Dr. Szasz’s most recent audiobook is on this very topic. I wonder if he appreciates the irony. I do.
Dr. Nun Sava-Siva Amen-Ra, Ascetic Analyst
Damascus, Maryland USA
August MMXIV
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