The Church of Us vs. Them
Freedom from a Faith That Feeds on Making Enemies
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Al Kessel
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David Fitch
About this listen
We are living in angry times. No matter where we go, what we watch, or how we communicate, our culture is rife with conflict. Unfortunately, Christians appear to be caught up in the same animosity as the culture at large. We are perceived as angry, judgmental, and defensive, fighting among ourselves in various media while the world looks on. How have we failed to be a people of reconciliation and renewal in the face of such tumult?
Claiming that the church has lost itself in the grip of an antagonistic culture, David Fitch takes a close look at what drives the vitriol in our congregations. He traces the enemy-making patterns in church history and diagnoses the divisiveness that marks the contemporary evangelical church. Fitch shows a way for the church to be true to itself, unwinding the antagonisms of our day and making space for Christ's reconciling presence in our day-to-day lives. He offers new patterns and practices that move the church beyond making enemies to being the presence of Christ in the world, helping us free ourselves from a faith that feeds on division.
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When it comes to the ethnic divisions in our world, we speak often of seeking racial reconciliation. But at no point have all ethnicities on Earth been reconciled. Animosity, distrust, and hostility among people from various ethnicities have always existed in American history. Even in the church, we have often built walls to divide God’s people from each other. In Intensional, pastor D. A. Horton steps into the tension to offer vision and practical guidance for Christians longing to embrace our Kingdom ethnicity, combating the hatred with the hope of Jesus Christ.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Loved Every Moment!
- By Marqus Rose on 02-26-21
By: D.A. Horton
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Open to the Spirit
- God in Us, God with Us, God Transforming Us
- By: Scot McKnight
- Narrated by: Jeremy Richards
- Length: 6 hrs and 8 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 52
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Who exactly is the Holy Spirit? What does he do in our lives? How can we know him more deeply, and is it possible to tap in to his power? Should we pray to the Holy Spirit? Is it possible to be aware of his promptings and speaking into our lives? Dr. Scot McKnight answers these questions and more in this comprehensive examination of what the Bible says about this divinely important but often confusing member of the Trinity.
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4 out of 5 stars
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The Spirit Is Essential.
- By Adam Shields on 09-03-19
By: Scot McKnight
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Stay Salt
- The World Has Changed: Our Message Must Not
- By: Rebecca Manley Pippert
- Narrated by: Sarah Zimmerman
- Length: 6 hrs and 59 mins
- Unabridged
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The world has changed in so many ways, and many of us no longer feel confident when it comes to evangelism, especially with the rise of hostility toward Christian points of view. Keeping quiet is becoming our default position. Yet the world has not changed in one way: It still needs Jesus. Renowned evangelist Becky Pippert draws on decades of conversations about Christianity around the world to call and equip ordinary Christians to share Jesus through their ordinary day-to-day conversations.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Best book on relational evangelism I’ve read
- By Mike on 07-08-20
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Ekklesia
- Rediscovering God's Instrument for Global Transformation
- By: Dr. Ed Silvoso
- Narrated by: Jon Gauger
- Length: 9 hrs and 6 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 117
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In this vital, eye-opening book, best-selling author Ed Silvoso digs into Scripture, unearthing Jesus' true design for his church - his Ekklesia. He shows how the early church was a radical, countercultural force of people who transformed the hostile, pagan places in which they lived. Here Dr. Silvoso shows how we, in the midst of the social, economic, political, and moral chaos in our world today, can once again become the revolutionary, transformational, life-giving Ekklesia Jesus called us to be.
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5 out of 5 stars
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big picture and inspiration
- By tbrinkley on 09-04-18
By: Dr. Ed Silvoso
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Christians in the Age of Outrage
- How to Bring Our Best When the World Is at Its Worst
- By: Ed Stetzer
- Narrated by: Wayne Shepherd
- Length: 9 hrs and 34 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 82
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Today there are too many examples of those claiming to follow Christ being caustic, divisive, and irrational, contributing to dismissals of the Christian faith as hypocritical, self-interested, and politically co-opted. What has happened in our society? One short outrageous video, whether it is true or not, can trigger an avalanche of comments on social media. Welcome to the new age of outrage. In this groundbreaking book featuring new survey research of evangelicals and their relationship to the age of outrage, Ed Stetzer offers a constructive way forward.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Balanced Look at an Unbalanced World
- By Tony E. on 11-01-18
By: Ed Stetzer
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Jesus' Alternative Plan
- The Sermon on the Mount
- By: Richard Rohr OFM
- Narrated by: Dean Gallagher
- Length: 7 hrs and 57 mins
- Unabridged
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Richard Rohr Rohr goes through the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount, explaining the historical and cultural context of each verse and offering guidance for what it means for Christians today.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Updated Version
- By Anonymous User on 03-30-23
By: Richard Rohr OFM
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One Blood
- Parting Words to the Church on Race
- By: John M. Perkins, Karen Waddles
- Narrated by: Calvin Robinson
- Length: 4 hrs and 38 mins
- Unabridged
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We are living in historic times. Not since the Civil Rights Movement of the '60s has our country been as vigorously engaged in the reconciliation conversation. There is a great opportunity right now for culture to change, to be a more perfect union. However, it cannot be done without the church, because the faith of the people is more powerful than any law government can enact.
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5 out of 5 stars
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John Perkins' GRACIOUS MASTERPIECE.
- By Thom Hazelip on 05-08-18
By: John M. Perkins, and others
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The Very Good Gospel
- How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right
- By: Lisa Sharon Harper, Walter Brueggemann - foreword
- Narrated by: Lisa Sharon Harper
- Length: 9 hrs and 14 mins
- Unabridged
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Shalom is what God declared. Shalom is what the Kingdom of God looks like. Shalom is when all people have enough. It's when churches, schools, and public policies protect human dignity. Shalom is when the image of God is recognized in every single human. Shalom is our calling as followers of Jesus' gospel. What can we do to bring shalom to our nations, our communities, and our souls? Through a careful exploration of biblical text, particularly the first three chapters of Genesis, Lisa Sharon Harper shows us what "very good" can look like today, even after the Fall.
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5 out of 5 stars
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The Gospel as Truly Good News
- By Mary Lewis on 06-18-21
By: Lisa Sharon Harper, and others
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On Earth as in Heaven
- Daily Wisdom for Twenty-First Century Christians
- By: N. T. Wright
- Narrated by: James Langton
- Length: 12 hrs and 27 mins
- Unabridged
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Modern pastors and their flocks have long considered N. T. Wright a role model for being a thoughtful Christian in today’s world. His bestselling books, including Simply Christian, Surprised by Hope, Simply Jesus, and After You Believe, have guided Christians in their belief and practice of the faith. Now, Christians can rely on his wisdom to guide them through each day of their lives with this thoughtful book of daily meditations, featuring short selections from his classic works.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Beautiful encouragement to live the real Christian life. Following our King Jesus
- By Charlton & Natasha on 02-03-24
By: N. T. Wright
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The Unsaved Christian
- Reaching Cultural Christians with the Gospel
- By: Dean Inserra
- Narrated by: Tim Lundeen
- Length: 5 hrs and 19 mins
- Unabridged
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What to do when they say they’re Christian but don’t know Jesus. Whether it’s the Christmas and Easter Christians or the faithful church attenders whose hearts are cold toward the Lord, we’ve all encountered cultural Christians. They’d check the Christian box on a survey, they’re fine with church, but the truth is, they’re far from God. So how do we bring Jesus to this overlooked mission field? The Unsaved Christian equips you to confront cultural Christianity with honesty, compassion, and grace, whether you’re doing it from the pulpit or the pews.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Me. Me. Me! That was me! I thought I was a Christian...
- By Nana B on 04-23-19
By: Dean Inserra
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The Thrill of Orthodoxy
- Rediscovering the Adventure of Christian Faith
- By: Trevin Wax
- Narrated by: Trevin Wax
- Length: 6 hrs and 49 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 33
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Every generation faces the temptation to wander from orthodoxy—to seek out the jolt that comes with false teaching, and to drift with cultural currents. And so every generation must be awakened again to the thrill of orthodoxy, and experience the astonishment that comes from stumbling afresh upon the electrifying paradoxes at the heart of the Christian faith. In The Thrill of Orthodoxy, Trevin Wax turns the tables on those who believe Christian teaching is narrow and outdated.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Obviously biased
- By Jamie on 05-14-24
By: Trevin Wax
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Forming Intentional Disciples
- The Path to Knowing and Following Jesus
- By: Sherry A. Weddell
- Narrated by: Nan McNamara
- Length: 7 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 78
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Learn about the five thresholds of postmodern conversion; how to open a conversation about faith and belief; how to ask thought-provoking questions and establish an atmosphere of trust, when to tell the great story of Jesus; how to help someone respond to God's call to intentional discipleship; and much more. And be prepared for conversion because when life at the parish level changes, the life of the whole Church will change.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Valuable resource, required reading
- By Andrew Havens on 01-03-19
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Secret Message of Jesus
- Uncovering the Truth that Could Change Everything
- By: Brian McLaren
- Narrated by: Paul Michael
- Length: 7 hrs and 21 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 79
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In The Secret Message of Jesus, McLaren clears away the dust of 2,000 years of the Christian religion to get to the most important questions facing Christendom: Could it be that the church has misunderstood or, in some cases, intentionally distorted Jesus' core message?
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3 out of 5 stars
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What's the Secret???
- By Joseph on 06-07-10
By: Brian McLaren
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Strong Through the Storm
- How to Be a Christian in the World Today
- By: Jim Cymbala, Jennifer Schuchmann
- Narrated by: Jim Cymbala
- Length: 6 hrs and 12 mins
- Unabridged
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In Strong Through the Storm, pastor and best-selling author Jim Cymbala speaks to every Christian who is concerned about the challenges the church is facing in America today. Using powerful stories of people who have been transformed by Christ, Cymbala offers hope, helping Christians to understand that a life surrendered to Christ will not be easily defeated, even in the midst of growing hostility toward Christians. No matter how much spiritual darkness encompasses the world, the light of the gospel cannot be suppressed.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Must Read!
- By Аmazon Customer on 07-12-20
By: Jim Cymbala, and others
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A Church Called Tov
- Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing
- By: Scot McKnight, Laura Barringer
- Narrated by: Michael Beck
- Length: 7 hrs and 16 mins
- Unabridged
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What is the way forward for the church? Tragically, in recent years, Christians have gotten used to revelations of abuses of many kinds in our most respected churches―from Willow Creek to Harvest, from Southern Baptist pastors to Sovereign Grace churches. Respected author and theologian Scot McKnight and former Willow Creek member Laura Barringer wrote this book to paint a pathway forward for the church.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Mostly good, but has a major issue
- By T.J. on 11-30-21
By: Scot McKnight, and others
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Things Hidden
- Scripture as Spirituality
- By: Richard Rohr O.F.M.
- Narrated by: John Quigley O.F.M.
- Length: 10 hrs and 26 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 89
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The Bible is meant to be about transformation, not merely information. In Things Hidden, Richard Rohr invites you to experience Scripture as spirituality - as a living text that can breathe new life into your relationship with God and change your way of seeing the world.
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5 out of 5 stars
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excellent and inspirational in the insights
- By Nana on 11-03-22
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- Trevor
- 01-01-20
a needed message for todays world
repetitive and narrator wasn't as exciting as if like but the message was true and clear
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- RE Brown
- 07-05-22
It gave me a framework to understand better than my own words of being pulled to the left and right - but staying in the middle.
Being blinded by the pull from both sides in my life this book helped me see through the intentions to the core of our need for unity, humbleness and serving others in the midst of Christ’s manifest presence. Bringing together rather than being taken and brain washed by the enemy making machine that separates the church. The church is not the enemy! Also, his perspective of banners and slogans being used to divide for political gain was priceless. Lord, keep me from participating or creating these banners in my own life and ministry.
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- Dan P.
- 01-19-21
Desire to be a true peace maker?
This book is for you. be ready to be stretched in your thinking and yet better equipped to be a peace maker.
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- Crdoo
- 03-18-21
Me v. Them?
Dr. Fitch's ideas are so thought-provoking. I am considering how my words and actions have impacted the "thems" in my life. I also recognize who I am the "them" for now.
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