Kill All Normies

Online Culture Wars from 4Chan and Tumblr to Trump and the Alt-Right

By: Angela Nagle

Narrated by: Mary Sarah

Recent years have seen a revival of the heated culture wars of the 1990s, but this time its battleground is the Internet. On one side the alt-right ranges from the once obscure neo-reactionary and white separatist movements, to geeky subcultures like 4chan, to more mainstream manifestations such as the Trump-supporting gay libertarian Milo Yiannopolous.

On the other side, a culture of struggle sessions and virtue signaling lurks behind a therapeutic language of trigger warnings and safe spaces. The feminist side of the online culture wars has its equally geeky subcultures right through to its mainstream expression.

Kill All Normies explores some of the cultural genealogies and past parallels of these styles and subcultures, drawing from transgressive styles of 60s libertinism and conservative movements, to make the case for a rejection of the perpetual cultural turn.

©2017 Angela Nagle (P)2017 Tantor

Great journalism here!

A quick engaging overview of the previous few years of the planet weird taking place online in the so called cyber culture wars. The book is fair and unbiased in its general reporting and assessment of it and if anything could've been longer as the writer barely skims the surface of the general experience but does a great job cataloging it all from its first publicly known red flags to the later general aberrations manifesting from it. Perhaps Mrs Nagle will write another book on the subject as I do feel it is one of deep concern for us all and there's more we could learn from it as we seem to now engage more in cyberspace than ever before. It's here to stay. There has been a curve with our online experience that although quite incredible has also allowed for the worst in human behavior from every angle of the known political and cultural spectrum. Kudos for a quick and informative piece of work here. Thanks for publishing it Angela Nagle! Great narrator too. My only complaint is it could've been longer but does nicely covering the basic bases for anyone trying to get a better understanding.

Utterly Enlightening

This book provides a refreshing and enlightening view of both the internet right and the internet left as deeply flawed in their own unique ways, and traces the history of how their interactions with one another have fueled each other's intensifying tribalism and disgust of the other. It adds subtlety and nuance to what has previously been a quite simplistic discussion on the left of how Trump won and how to properly understand various facets of conservative culture.

Really interesting dive into internet culture

Really interesting and in-depth look into the online culture wars. At times the audio can be hard to follow as it seems to jump quickly so you've got to pay close attention. The content can also jump from a simpler breakdown of the culture wars to a high-level academic review with references to any number of content that isn't always explained and can leave you feeling left behind if you don't have that level of background on the content. Lastly, the author does express biases in the book and while I respect the transparency some of the admitted biases seemed unnecessary and distracting as well as somewhat petty. But overall the content is exactly what I was looking for to start learning about different areas of online culture.

not good and often wrong

Cleary written by someone adhering to to doctrine of centrism or stuck in the smug self satisfaction of pointing out to flaws on both sides. Ignoring the entire history of the far right and proclaiming Tumblr as the 4chan of the left. This book is riddled with unjustified opinions and factual errors. Of course it's all expressed as though it's plain and obvious. When compared to other books trying to explain the rise of the alt right and the current culture wars this book is on the low end of rigor and quality. I'm annoyed that I used one of my audible credits on this trite, self congratulatory waste of time.

Sobering & eye-opening

A sobering, eye-opening, and dizzying dissection of the underbelly of the online cultural wars. Angela Nagle does a remarkable job surveying this terrifying landscape.

Best book I’ve read this year!!!

A fantastic but harrowing overview of the shitty ways the online cultures that are basically the reason I don’t go on social media any more have shaped the divide we have today.

I as a leftist admire this criticism of leftism

A great and rigorous analysis of current trends, an intellectually honest critique of the identetarian segments of the modern left. Truly worth your time.

Should have gone more in depth

There are a lot of good, interesting points here, but I don't feel like the author researched the topics deeply enough. It's well-written. The narration is decent. The author made am attempt and displaying "both sides" of the issue. But Angela doesn't understand a lot of what she's talking about. And she definitely misrepresented Fight Club 😅

truly a haunting and critical reflection

this book has been one of the best explorations into the online culture wars, and truly enlightening to the sensibilities of 21st century culture. truly worth a read to anyone worth their salt. Many of you would have only heard one side of the story, but this book does a good job showing the toxic nature of both sides of the internet.

tight tight tight

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