“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation” (Henry Thoreau).

In this classic episode, Andrew interviews therapist SIMON ROE. Simon has based his life’s work on helping men live an authentic life. After himself going through a period of quiet desperation in his mid-thirties, he went on to help men break the silence, find “the song inside” and overcome their experiences of depression, violence and loneliness.

Simon has also worked extensively with boys and their fathers to create rites of passage that help boys claim a strong, authentic sense of their developing manhood.

Simon Roe originally trained as a body psychotherapist, and is also a co-leader of the Mandorla Men’s Rites of Passage programme. He has worked extensively with perpetrators of domestic violence, and is a Respect approved trainer and supervisor. Simon is also trained in process oriented psychology.

Simon and Andrew also discuss the idea of answering “the call to adventure”, an idea powerfully captured in this poem by Rainer Maria Rilke:

Sometimes A Man Stands Up During Supper

Sometimes a man stands up during supper

and walks outdoors, and keeps on walking,

because of a church that stands somewhere in the East.

And his children say blessings on him as if he were dead.

And another man, who remains inside his own house,

dies there, inside the dishes and in the glasses,

so that his children have to go far out into the world

toward that same church , which he forgot.

Rainer Maria Rilke ( trans. Robert Bly)

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This week supporters will hear:

• Three Things Simon Roe knows to be true.
• AND subscribers also access all of our previous bonus content - a rich trove of insight on love, life and meaning created by Andrew and his interviewees.

Follow Up

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Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools

Attend Andrew's new men's retreat, Reconnect With Yourself, this autumn in the Brandenberg countryside near Berlin.

Visit Simon Roe’s website

Learn about the Kingfisher Project, a community dedicated to rites of passage for boys aged 13-16.

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Many women long to be in a happy relationship, in which they feel safe, heard and understood, but have given up after years of disappointment and heartbreak. This week dating coach EVAN MARC KATZ joins Andrew to discuss why it’s so hard for women to find a man who wants to commit and to build a genuine relationship. They cover:

• How to get psychologically prepared to date successfully.
• Knowing which compromises to make in the service of love.
• The difference between compromise and “settling”.
• The importance of accepting men as they are, rather than viewing them as fixable works in progress.
• Balancing chemistry and compatibility in your relationship decisions.
• Evan’s personal experiences of dating frustration, and how they led him to write one of the first and most popular books about online dating.

Evan Marc Katz is an author, CEO, podcaster, dating coach and former screenwriter who works to support strong, successful women to find lasting relationships. He has been featured by Today, the New York Times, and CNN. A total of 13,000 women from 40 countries have graduated from Love U, his coaching course and community that helps women understand men and find love.

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This week supporters will hear:

• Dealing with Unavailable Men.
• Three Things Evan Marc Katz knows to be true.
• AND subscribers also access all of our previous bonus content - a rich trove of insight on love, life and meaning created by Andrew and his interviewees.

Follow Up

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things

Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools

Learn more about working with Evan Marc Katz on his website

Read Evan Marc Katz’s books

Listen to Evan Marc Katz’s Love U podcast

Follow Evan Marc Katz on Facebook @EvanMarcKatzfan, on Instagram @realevanmarckatz and on Twitter/X and YouTube @evanmarckatz.

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For Andrew, it is the writings of Dr James Hollis, one of the world’s most eminent Jungian analysts, that have “sustained me through my dark times”. Dr Hollis’ books also regularly help Andrew’s marital therapy clients create change in their relationships and recover from infidelity.

In this classic reissued episode, Andrew speaks to James Hollis about what it means to be resilient - how do we discover and develop the strength nature gives us to “walk through the forest” when we inevitably hit dark times?

Bookshops and the internet are full of “five steps to happiness” style self-help manuals, telling us that if only we wake up earlier, change jobs, or eliminate caffeine, we will solve all our problems. In fact, life is fractious and difficult, and requires us to persist. The best way to do this is not an external solution, but to find and trust the strength within ourselves.

Dr. James Hollis is a Washington D.C. based Jungian psychoanalyst and the author of seventeen books. He was Executive Director of the Jung Educational Center in Houston, Texas for many years and Executive Director of the Jung Society of Washington (JSW) until 2019. He also worked as a Senior Training Analyst for the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts, as a Director of Training of the Philadelphia Jung Institute, and is Vice-President Emeritus of the Philemon Foundation.

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This week supporters will hear:

• Three Things James Hollis knows to be true.
• AND subscribers also access all of our previous bonus content - a rich trove of insight on love, life and meaning created by Andrew and his interviewees.

Follow Up

Get Andrew’s free guide to difficult conversations with your partner: How to Tell Your Partner Difficult Things

Take a look at Andrew’s new online relationship course: My Best Relationship Tools

Take a look at James Hollis’ website

Read James Hollis’ book, Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life

Read Andrew’s review of James Hollis’ book Swamplands of the Soul: New Life in Dismal Places:

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