Frederik Hendriksen is the co-founder of Rensair, pioneering the world’s first air quality ecosystem to cut carbon, costs, and pollutants through next-generation ventilation technology. Rensair’s connected solutions optimize existing HVAC systems, reducing energy costs while delivering cleaner, healthier indoor air—without expensive infrastructure upgrades. Their tech traces back to Frederik’s father, a ventilation engineer, who originally developed a standalone air purification system for hospital operating rooms, and to help Frederik’s twin brother manage severe asthma. Inspired by this innovation, Frederik and his team are now hacking HVAC to tackle the climate crisis and transform building ventilation, ushering in a new era of carbon efficiency, cost savings, and clean indoor air.

(01:49) - The tech behind Rensair

(04:29) - Impact of HVAC on building energy consumption

(06:00) - Rensair's energy efficiency solutions
(13:31) - Feature | Market Stadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis

(17:51) - Business model & partnerships

(19:20) - Challenges & opportunities in Climate Tech

(24:23) - Leveraging AI for indoor air quality
(29:44) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now
(31:55) - Greenland & Climate change

(34:16) - Collaboration Superpower: Niels Ryberg Finsen (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Rensair
➡️ Frederik Hendriksen on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Market Stadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Amit Gupta is the CEO of Aeroseal, a cleantech leader revolutionizing building efficiency through patented sealing technologies. Under his leadership, Aeroseal has secured nearly $100 million in private equity funding, including backing from Breakthrough Energy Ventures. The company has sealed 300,000 homes, enhanced performance in 500M+ square feet of commercial properties, and expanded to 90+ countries with a 1,500+ dealer network. Aeroseal’s innovations help reduce HVAC losses and aim to eliminate one gigaton of CO₂ emissions annually, accelerating the net-zero building movement worldwide. Previously, Amit served various product management roles at Carrier, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions.

(01:35) - Amit's background & mission

(04:10) - Challenges & innovations in building efficiency

(05:57) - Aeroseal's growth & fundraising
(9:41) - Feature | Market Stadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis

(10:52) - Commercial & Residential Real Estate applications

(21:15) - Investment & future plans
(24:34) - Feature: Blueprint 2025: The Future of Real Estate - Register now

(25:20) - Advice for Real Estate investors, operators & developers
(29:33) - Collaboration Superpower: Benjamin Franklin

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Aeroseal's site
➡️ Amit Gupta on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Market Stadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Sean Miller is the Chief Revenue Officer at Lessen, leading sales and marketing to expand its tech-enabled property maintenance, repairs, turns and capital improvement services platform, with 3 million work orders completed annually. With deep expertise in real estate technology and IoT, he currently serves as Built Environment advisory board member of SIA, and previously served as CRO at Sensor Industries, CEO and Co-founder of Griot, and President of PointCentral (an Alarm.com subsidiary). He has also held leadership roles at Belkin and Generac, driving smart property and remote monitoring solutions.

(01:26) - Sean Miller's Career Journey

(03:50) - The Evolution of maintenance in Real Estate

(09:29) - Feature | MarketStadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis

(10:40) - Lessen's revenue levers & tech investments

(14:56) Labor shortages & operational efficiency

(16:42) - Data-Driven Decisions: Repair vs. Replace impact on insurance
(21:10) - Cost-efficiencies from Water leak detection tech & asset tagging
(27:16) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate - Register now

(29:14) - AI & automation for Maintenance

(33:17) - Collaboration Superpower: Thomas Jefferson, Michael Jordan & Croesus (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Lessen's site
➡️ Sean Miller on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ MarketStadium - Book a demo: One-stop real estate data platform to optimize Multifamily & Single-family market analysis.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Dennis Lee is the co-founder and CEO of MarketStadium, a real estate data platform transforming how investors analyze multifamily and single-family markets. His journey began as an urban planning researcher in South Korea, where he identified key locational advantages driving gentrification in Seoul. This insight led him to explore how urban planning research could be applied to real estate investment decisions.

After studying at NYU’s Schack Institute of Real Estate, Dennis joined Lionstone Investments, where he helped manage a $9 billion real estate portfolio using a location-first investment strategy. Recognizing the potential to bring urban planning insights and data analytics to the broader real estate industry, he co-founded MarketStadium with a team of urban planning PhDs, tech developers, and industry experts.

(02:57) – Dennis Lee's background & MarketStadium's Origin
(05:11) – Market Stadium's Vision for Offerings
(07:07) – Multifamily sector insights
(13:19) - Feature | MarketStadium - Book a demo: Optimize your Multifamily & Single-family market analysis
(17:55) – Leveraging data for Real Estate investment decisions
(25:10) – Climate Risk & AI in Real Estate
(28:46) - Feature | Berkadia's BeEngaged - Connect with the team: Ecosystem of founders, industry professionals, and capital providers dedicated to redefining the Commercial Real Estate space.
(30:20) – Advice for founders looking to partner with institutional players
(31:15) - Lessons from the Korean market
(31:50) - Collaboration Superpower: Leonardo Da Vinci & Sandro Botticelli (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit MarketStadium's site
➡️ Dennis Lee on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Berkadia's BeEngaged - Connect with the team: Ecosystem of founders, industry professionals, and capital providers dedicated to redefining the commercial real estate space.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Lior Abramovich is the Co-Founder & CEO of Blanket, a platform transforming the single-family rental market backed by RE Angels. With over a decade of experience, he's overseen $200 million in acquisitions for more than 1,000 investors. Beyond real estate, Lior is dedicated to impact-driven initiatives—he co-founded Golden, a nonprofit renovating homes for senior citizens in need, and a foundation committed to providing clean drinking water to children worldwide. A graduate of the University of Haifa with a degree in Political Science, Lior also served eight years in the Israeli Navy, holding leadership roles as Executive Officer of the Naval Academy and Chief Engineer of a Navy warship.

(03:10) - Lior's & Blanket's Origin Story

(06:03) - SFR Property Management Landscape

(10:20) - Blanket's Business Model & Growth

(17:57) - Challenges & Opportunities in SFR Property Management

(24:11) - Feature: Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Join Pacaso’s growth and become an investor of the venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest

25:59 Challenges and Insights in Property Management

(26:40) - Expanding Across Markets
(32:48) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate 2025

(35:53) - Leveraging AI in Property Management

(40:40) - Blanket's Media Strategy & Industry Impact

(44:08) - Collaboration Superpower - Winston Churchill & Giovanni di Bicci de' Medici (Wiki)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Blanket's site
➡️ Lior Abramovich on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Pacaso - Join Pacaso’s growth - Become an investor of a venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest. Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Ben Borton is a Co-Founder of PodPlay Technologies, where he oversees go-to-market strategy and leads the Sales and Marketing teams. He also serves as Chief Strategy Officer and was the first external investor in PodPlay's parent company, PingPod Inc. Before joining PodPlay, Ben held several leadership roles in the finance and technology sectors, including as Head of Digital Fund Services at Figure Technologies, Partner at Mountaineer Partners, and Partner at MM Capital. Throughout his career, Ben has been a founder or partner in multiple investment management firms and an active technology angel investor.

(01:00) - Ben Borton & Podplay Technologies

(06:06) - PingPod, the autonomous sports venue

(09:50) - Real Estate opportunities with Podplay

(14:26) - Feature: Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Join Pacaso’s growth and become an investor of a venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest

(16:13) - Enhancing building & company culture with sports

(18:24) - Revenue sharing model with landlords

(19:40) - Podplay vs. Topgolf

(25:54) - Autonomous operating model

(28:28) - The rise & trends shaping third places

(34:48) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate 2025

(35:35) - Office-to-retail conversion opportunity

(41:17) - Inspiration from ServiceTitan's IPO

(47:16) - Collaboration Superpower: Charles Dickens (Wiki) & David Foster (ITTF)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit PodPlay Technologies site
➡️ Ben Borton on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Pacaso - Join Pacaso’s growth - Become an investor of a venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest. Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Ross Piermarini is the co-founder of symmetRE, a Chicago-based proptech firm specializing in automating data aggregation and reporting for commercial real estate investors. Prior to founding symmetRE, Ross worked in the Leveraged Finance group at BMO Capital Markets, focusing on real estate clients. His firsthand experience with the challenges of manual data aggregation and reporting in the real estate sector motivated him to develop solutions that streamline these processes. Under Ross's leadership, symmetRE has launched an AI-enabled platform designed to eliminate the time-consuming aspects of data collection and analysis, allowing real estate professionals to concentrate on optimizing asset performance. Ross also shared his insights into the integration of AI in commercial real estate, and he discusses the necessity of adopting advanced technologies to enhance efficiency and decision-making in the sector.

(01:13) - Ross's & symmetrRE's origin

(04:42) - Challenges in Real Estate data management

(08:06) - symmetry's solutions & client success

(13:54) - Feature | Berkadia's BeEngaged - Connect with the team: Ecosystem of founders, industry professionals, and capital providers dedicated to redefining the Commercial Real Estate space.
(15:24) - Partnership with Berkadia's BeEngaged

(17:45) - symmetry's long-term vision

(22:48) - Marketing vs. product delivery in Proptech
(26:07) - Feature | Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate 2025

(26:55) - The Role of AI in Real Estate

(29:20) - Collaboration Superpower: Marc Benioff (Salesforce CEO)

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit symmetRE's site
➡️ Ross Piermarini on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Berkadia's BeEngaged - Connect with the team: Ecosystem of founders, industry professionals, and capital providers dedicated to redefining the commercial real estate space.

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Austin is CEO of Pacaso and co-founded the company with Spencer Rascoff (co-founder and former CEO of Zillow) to make the dream of second home ownership a reality for more people after experiencing the profound effect it had on his own life. Pacaso is Austin’s second startup. In 2009, he founded dotloop in his hometown of Cincinnati, a company that created software to seamlessly manage real estate transactions. Zillow acquired dotloop in 2015, and Austin continued to run dotloop as a Zillow executive until 2018. Austin started selling real estate at the age of 18 and worked in residential and commercial real estate for a decade.

(01:38) - Housing market update

(05:26) - Rise of fractional investing & ownership
(9:06) - Feature: Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Join Pacaso’s growth and become an investor of a venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest

(13:52) - Pacaso's Reg-A offering

(16:16) - Pacaso vs. timeshares vs. shares of Hotel companies

(21:38) - Property management & owner benefits

(26:27) - Community impact & housing affordability

(29:39) - Pacaso's Business Model
(35:22) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate 2025

(36:12) - Reg A investments, transparency & compliance

(53:41) - Collaboration Superpower: Steve Jobs

💚 Learn more:
➡️ Visit Pacaso's site
➡️ Austin Allison on LinkedIn

💚 Feature:
➡️ Pacaso - Luxury vacation home ownership, elevated. Join Pacaso’s growth and become an investor of a venture-backed company at Pacaso.com/invest

➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2025: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VCs, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 16th-18th, 2025.

💚 Connect with Tangent:
➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn
➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn
➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn
➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn

Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.