For various reasons, the next installment of Moving Kryptonian Images has been delayed. But...that doesn't mean that I don't have a new episode of the show to release.

Because I care.

Recently I sat down with Andrew Leyland (you know, my co-host on The Overlooked Dark Knight and the co-host of Hey Kids Comics and the host of The Amazing Spider-Man From The Beginning) and we talked about three times where Superman, either directly or indirectly, crossed paths with The Fantastic Four. Why? Because the FF are getting a new movie a few weeks after Superman gets his new movie and I like jumping on bandwagons.

Mercenary? Yes. Do I care? Not really.

Anyway, Andy used to co-host a Fantastic Four show and we're friends, so this episode seemed like a good idea. We have a brief chat about our histories with the Fantastic Four, our thoughts on their previous cinematic efforts, why you shouldn't watch the 2015 film, and then we get into some comics. First up are Adventures of Superman issues 466 and 468, which feature Superman going up against a very Fantastic Four like team, one of which ends up being a pretty big deal. Then we talk about the Superman/Fantastic Four treasury crossover from 1999, which features the previously mentioned big deal. Finally, we talk about Fantastic Four issues 249 and 250 where the FF go up against Gladiator in a story that came about because John Byrne had beef with E. Nelson Bridwell.

No. I'm not kidding about that. But...level with me...are you really surprised?

Many thanks to Andy taking time out of his Saturday to talk with me about Superman and the Fantastic Four. Check out his shows. They are keen.

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The opening theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound. The closing theme is a surprise.

Next Time: Hopefully I'll be getting back to Moving Kryptonian Images. If not, I'll either cover some of the feedback I'm getting or maybe I'll talk about my thoughts concerning the new Superman film since we're so close to it being released.

Welcome to a very special installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

In 2018, the most famous (or, as some would say, infamous) Superman story of all time got a second chance at an animated film. Despite looking more like a New 52 story, The Death of Superman was a closer adaptation to the original comic book story than the 2007 version. Because of that, I wanted to do something special with this episode and the next one and having one of the architects of said original comic book story seemed like the way to go. Joining me for this episode is Jerry Ordway and the conversation we had touches on the animated film but goes far beyond it as well.

Jerry shares his thoughts on the movie, but also what it was like attending a screening in New York City where he got to meet some of the cast and crew. We also touch on the behind the scenes of the original comic book version of the death of Superman, how Jerry broke into comics, his early career and how quitting DC led to him getting more work, the early days of the Post Crisis era, and so much more. He also talks about his visit to the set of the new Superman film and what it was like meeting the new Superman and Lex Luthor.

I cannot thank Jerry enough for appearing on this episode. It meant a lot to this Post Crisis fan.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to itallcomesbacktosuperman@gmail.com. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: A slight detour from Moving Kryptonian Images. Andy Leyland joins me to talk about the times that Superman met the Fantastic Four (and vice versa) both directly and indirectly.

Welcome to another, equally controversial installment of the podcasting maxi-series called Moving Kryptonian Images: The Live Action and Animated Adventures of Superman! The purpose of this series is to celebrate the release of the new Superman film, written and directed by James Gunn and starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor!

Jon Wilson (he of of Ninjas and Bots, Babylon 5: Thirty Years Later, and The Spider Diaries) returns to talk about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. It is both fair and accurate to say that from the time it was announced and especially when it was released that this movie has garnered a lot of controversy. Not real controversy. I mean...there are many, many, many real controversies in the world that we should be arguing about, but for some reason this movie gets brought up again and again.

Seriously. The world's on fire. And not in a good way. And people still focus on this film. It's wild.

Though, how much of a leg to stand on do I have? I've been doing a whole series about Superman movies.

Anyway, Jon and I have another honest conversation about the movie and once again I chose to take on the movie on the movie's terms. We talk about the Bat costume, whether or not this was the right take on Batman for the first film in a new iteration, what potential crimes Batman committed...man, we talked about Batman a lot. But we also talked about Superman, Lex Luthor, Lois, and much, much more. The good. The bad. What we liked. What we didn't like. It was a fun two hours.

Once again, I’d like to thank Jon for joining me on this episode. Head on over to the Jon Reads Comics site to check out all of his fantastic podcasts.

Feedback for It All Comes Back To Superman Series 2 can be sent to itallcomesbacktosuperman@gmail.com. At the end of this series I will be doing a feedback special going through all of the emails and comments that are left or sent!

You can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or stream it through Spotify, iHeart Radio, and Audible.

The Fortress of Baileytude Podcasting Network is on Patreon. It’s mostly a tip jar as I have no time at the moment to produce exlcusive content, but if you like the content I do produce please consider contributing a dollar a month.

The opening and closing theme to the show is titled Journey and was composed by Pontus Rufelt. It is licensed from Shockwave-Sound.

Next Time: Moving Kryptonian Images continues with another death of Superman movie called...The Death of Superman. My guest? It's a surprise!