Kouri Richins' defense alleges the Summit County Sheriff’s Office illegally obtain evidence while investigating the death of Eric Richins. Defense attorneys Kathy Nester and Wendy Lewis say detectives violated Richins' constitutional rights and are arguing that evidence be ruled inadmissible during the her murder. At the center of the motion is the "Walk the Dog" letter, and data from her phone and Apple accounts.

Defense attorneys argue investigators took Kouri’s phone without a proper warrant and did not inform her right to remain silent, her right to ask for a lawyer and her right to refuse questioning.

This case begins when on more than one occasion, Eric Richins gets violently ill after having dinner with his wife, Kouri.

Then the pair, who own a successful real estate business, is celebrating a big sale when Kouri Richins fixes her husband a drink. She then goes to take care of the children. Hours later when she goes to bed Eric Richins is dead.

Investigators believe his wife killed him, putting an overdose of fentanyl in his drink. Police also discover that Kouri Richins tried to change the beneficiary to her husband's life insurance.

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

• Jeffrey Wolf - Criminal Defense Attorney; Twitter: @JeffWolf5280 and @WolfLawLLC
• Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA.- Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women; Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University; Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital
• Bobby Chacon- Former Special Agent FBI, Screenwriter for “Criminal Minds;” Instagram/Twitter: @BobbyChaconFBI
• Dr. Paul Christo - Opioid Expert, Associate Professor for The John Hopkins School of Medicine, Division of Pain Medicine; Author and Host of "Aches & Gains: A Comprehensive Guide To Overcoming Your Pain"
• Dr. Kendall Crowns- Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), Lecturer: University of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School
• Jen Smith- Chief Reporter for DailyMail.com, Twitter: @jen_e_smith

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On a camping trip to celebrate their one-year wedding anniversary, Joseph Ferlazzo, 42, and his wife, Emily Jean Schwartz, 22, got into an argument. This much is understood.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and the evidence that will reveal who is telling the truth—the prosecution or the defense. The defense claims the couple argued, and Emily stormed out of the converted bus, never to be seen again.

Prosecutors allege that Ferlazzo shot his wife twice in the head and dismembered her on the bus.

Transcribe highlights

00:00.00 Introduction

03:29.92 Sharing camping stories

08:00.53 Husband twice as old as wife

14:20.33 Returns home without wife

19:16.42 Relax by getting away

24:26.58 Wife is supposedly in the woods, alone for days

28:35.69 Husband claims he is the victim

33:06.37 Dismembering the body

37:49.67 Father's wife died, never charged

41:25.68 Conclusion

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Kevin Franke and his two oldest children have opened up for the first time together to tell their story of living with infamous vlogger Ruby Franke. Hulu's docuseries Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke reveal the disturbing details of the abuse endured by the Franke children and how husband Kevin was isolated from his children during his year-long separation from their mother.

We learned of the horrendous abused when Franke's 12-year-old son climbs out of a window in a home, belonging to Franke's business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. The boy running to neighbors begging for food and water.

Neighbors called police. Officers said the boy looked emaciated and malnourished. Cops also noted that the boy had “deep lacerations from being tied up with rope” and duct tape around his wrists and ankles.. After searching Hildebrandt’s home, police found Franke’s 10-year-old daughter in a similar condition. Both children were taken to a hospital.

Franke's parenting channel "8 Passengers," which at one time boasted over 2 million followers, doled out parenting advice, and in her video, she admits to withholding food as a form of punishment.

Both women charged and convicted with aggravated child abuse. Kevin Frank admits he is still in love with his soon-to-be ex-wife.

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

• Donna Kelly – Former Utah Senior Deputy District Attorney and Attorney for Crime Victims Legal Clinic; Helped form the Utah County Sex Crimes Task Force
• Dr. Dana Anderson – Forensic Psychologist and consultant, court appointed expert witness, Twitter: @psychologydrcom, TikTok: @psychologydr
• Jason Jensen – Private Investigator (Jensen Private Investigations), Cold Case Expert (Salt Lake City, UT), and Co-founder: “Cold Case Coalition;” Investigations; Twitter: @JasonJPI, Facebook/Instagram: “Jensen Investigations”
• Dr. Free N. Hess – Pediatrician/Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Child Safety Expert & Consultant, Founder of www.PediMom.com
• Emily Ashcraft- Reporter for KSL.com in Utah; Twitter: @emilyjaneen3

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