
To Start a War
How the Bush Administration Took America into Iraq
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One of BookPage's Best Books of 2020
“The detailed, nuanced, gripping account of that strange and complex journey offered in Robert Draper’s To Start a War: How the Bush Administration Took America Into Iraq is essential reading - now, especially now.... Draper’s account [is] one for the ages.... A must-read for all who care about presidential power.” (The Washington Post)
From the author of the New York Times best seller Dead Certain comes the definitive, revelatory reckoning with arguably the most consequential decision in the history of American foreign policy - the decision to invade Iraq.
Even now, after more than 15 years, it is hard to see the invasion of Iraq through the cool, considered gaze of history. For too many people, the damage is still too palpable, and still unfolding. Most of the major players in that decision are still with us, and few of them are not haunted by it, in one way or another. Perhaps it's that combination, the passage of the years and the still unresolved trauma, that explains why so many protagonists opened up so fully for the first time to Robert Draper.
Draper's prodigious reporting has yielded scores of consequential new revelations, from the important to the merely absurd. As a whole, the book paints a vivid and indelible picture of a decision-making process that was fatally compromised by a combination of post-9/11 fear and paranoia, rank naïveté, craven groupthink, and a set of actors with idées fixes who gamed the process relentlessly. Everything was believed; nothing was true. The intelligence failure was comprehensive. Draper's fair-mindedness and deep understanding of the principal actors suffuse his account, as does a storytelling genius that is close to sorcery. There are no cheap shots here, which makes the ultimate conclusion all the more damning.
In the spirit of Barbara Tuchman's The Guns of August and Marc Bloch's Strange Defeat, To Start A War will stand as the definitive account of a collective process that arrived at evidence that would prove to be not just dubious but entirely false, driven by imagination rather than a quest for truth - evidence that was then used to justify a verdict that led to hundreds of thousands of deaths and a flood tide of chaos in the Middle East that shows no signs of ebbing.
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A Tragedy for One
- De Amazon Customer en 09-23-20
De: Scott Anderson
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The Afghanistan Papers
- A Secret History of the War
- De: Craig Whitlock, The Washington Post
- Narrado por: Dan Bittner
- Duración: 9 h y 35 m
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Unlike the wars in Vietnam and Iraq, the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 had near-unanimous public support. At first, the goals were straightforward and clear: Defeat al-Qaeda and prevent a repeat of 9/11. Yet soon after the United States and its allies removed the Taliban from power, the mission veered off-course and US officials lost sight of their original objectives.
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Eye-Opening Book
- De David J Ray en 09-01-21
De: Craig Whitlock, y otros
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Known and Unknown
- A Memoir
- De: Donald Rumsfeld
- Narrado por: Donald Rumsfeld
- Duración: 30 h y 10 m
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A powerful memoir from the late former US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. With the same directness that defined his career in public service, Rumsfeld's memoir is filled with previously undisclosed details and insights about the Bush administration, 9/11, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It also features Rumsfeld's unique and often surprising observations on eight decades of history. Both a fascinating narrative and an unprecedented glimpse into history, Known and Unknown captures the legacy of one of the most influential men in public service.
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Inside view of five decades in politics
- De Brooks en 02-19-11
De: Donald Rumsfeld
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Confront and Conceal
- Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power
- De: David E. Sanger
- Narrado por: Robertson Dean
- Duración: 15 h y 3 m
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Three and a half years ago, David Sanger’s book The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the Challenges to American Power described how a new American president came to office with the world on fire. Now, just as the 2012 presidential election battle begins, Sanger follows up with an eye-opening, news-packed account of how Obama has dealt with those challenges, relying on innovative weapons and reconfigured tools of American power to try to manage a series of new threats.
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Sobering reminder on what the presidency requires
- De Marilyn en 09-03-12
De: David E. Sanger
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In My Time
- A Personal and Political Memoir
- De: Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney
- Narrado por: Edward Herrmann, Dick Cheney
- Duración: 20 h
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In his unmistakable voice and with an insider's eye on history, former Vice President Dick Cheney tells the story of his life and the nearly four decades he has spent at the center of American politics and power. In My Time is truly the last word about an incredible political era, by a man who lived it and helped define it - with courage and without compromise.
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Great Book
- De reader en 09-05-11
De: Dick Cheney, y otros
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The One Percent Doctrine
- Deep Inside America's Pursuit of Its Enemies Since 9/11
- De: Ron Suskind
- Narrado por: Edward Herrmann
- Duración: 6 h y 11 m
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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and best-selling author Ron Suskind takes you deep inside America's real battles with violent, unrelenting terrorists, a game of kill-or-be-killed, from the Oval Office to the streets of Karachi.
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The Agenda is Clear
- De Penny en 09-28-11
De: Ron Suskind
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Gambling with Armageddon
- Nuclear Roulette from Hiroshima to the Cuban Missile Crisis
- De: Martin J. Sherwin
- Narrado por: Mark Bramhall
- Duración: 18 h y 50 m
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In this groundbreaking look at the Cuban Missile Crisis, Martin Sherwin not only gives us a riveting sometimes hour-by-hour explanation of the crisis itself, but also explores the origins, scope, and consequences of the evolving place of nuclear weapons in the post-World War II world. Mining new sources and materials, and going far beyond the scope of earlier works on this critical face-off between the United States and the Soviet Union — triggered when Khrushchev began installing missiles in Cuba at Castro's behest....
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Important History
- De J. B. Evans en 06-12-21
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From Warsaw with Love
- Polish Spies, the CIA, and the Forging of an Unlikely Alliance
- De: John Pomfret
- Narrado por: Donald Corren
- Duración: 8 h y 54 m
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From the award-winning and acclaimed author of The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom, From Warsaw with Love tells the epic story of how Polish intelligence officers forged an alliance with the CIA in the twilight of the Cold War. In 1990, soon after the Polish people voted in their first democratic election since the 1930s, the young Polish government sent a veteran spy, who’d battled the West for decades, to rescue six American officers trapped in Baghdad.
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Fascinating and well researched
- De wac53 en 07-23-24
De: John Pomfret
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Legacy of Ashes
- The History of the CIA
- De: Tim Weiner
- Narrado por: Stefan Rudnicki
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This is the book the CIA does not want you to read. For the last 60 years, the CIA has maintained a formidable reputation in spite of its terrible record, never disclosing its blunders to the American public. It spun its own truth to the nation while reality lay buried in classified archives. Now, Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter Tim Weiner offers a stunning indictment of the CIA, a deeply flawed organization that has never deserved America's confidence.
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Flawed but Important
- De Michael en 07-18-08
De: Tim Weiner
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Hubris
- The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War
- De: Michael Isikoff, David Corn
- Narrado por: Stefan Rudnicki
- Duración: 18 h y 54 m
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This fast-paced, behind-the-scenes narrative tells the inside story of how the Bush administration used bad intelligence to sell and then justify the Iraq war. Veteran reporters Michael Isikoff and David Corn take the reader behind the scenes at the White House, the CIA, the Pentagon, the State Department, and Congress, where controversial decisions and turf battles were fought in the highest circles of the Bush administration.
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Hubris
- De Pamela en 12-19-06
De: Michael Isikoff, y otros
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Duty
- Memoirs of a Secretary at War
- De: Robert M. Gates
- Narrado por: George Newbern, Robert M. Gates
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From the former secretary of defense, a strikingly candid, vivid account of serving Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. When Robert M. Gates received a call from the White House, he thought he'd long left Washington politics behind: After working for six presidents in both the CIA and the National Security Council, he was happily serving as president of Texas A&M University. But when he was asked to help a nation mired in two wars and to aid the troops doing the fighting, he answered what he felt was the call of duty.
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The Fighting Season
- De Cynthia en 01-28-14
De: Robert M. Gates
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The Man Who Ran Washington
- The Life and Times of James A. Baker III
- De: Peter Baker, Susan Glasser
- Narrado por: Michael Quinlan
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For a quarter-century, from the end of Watergate to the aftermath of the Cold War, no Republican won the presidency without his help or ran the White House without his advice. James Addison Baker III was the indispensable man for four presidents because he understood better than anyone how to make Washington work at a time when America was shaping events around the world. The Man Who Ran Washington is a pause-resisting portrait of a power broker who influenced America's destiny for generations.
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We Need Baker Now More Than Ever
- De @Gazi2a en 01-08-21
De: Peter Baker, y otros
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Days of Fire
- Bush and Cheney in the White House
- De: Peter Baker
- Narrado por: Mark Deakins
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Theirs was the most captivating American political partnership since Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger: a bold and untested president and his seasoned, relentless vice president. Confronted by one crisis after another, they struggled to protect the country, remake the world, and define their own relationship along the way. In Days of Fire, Peter Baker chronicles the history of the most consequential presidency in modern times through the prism of its two most compelling characters, capturing the elusive and shifting alliance of George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney as no historian has done before.
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A balanced account of the W and Cheney White House
- De Scott en 11-15-13
De: Peter Baker
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- Extinction
- 01-21-21
Lest we forget a previous inept administration
With all of the scandal and chaos from the last few years we sometimes forget how truly incompetent Bush and his cronies were in the early 2000s. This book is an informed and depressing peek inside the white house that led to the total destruction of two nations, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, and the eventual destabilization of an entire region (not even counting the home front costs).
The narration wasn't bad but I did have to dock some stars for poor pronunciation. For instance he pronounced "Baathist" with a long "baaa," like one is mimicking a sheep sound. It really breaks the immersion.
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- John David
- 08-31-20
Powerful but Painful History
A riveting, dismaying & infuriating account of how the George W. Bush administration took America into the Iraq War. There was no George Ball, who forcefully advised LBJ against Vietnam escalation. Tragic failure all around. Bush & Cheney foremost, but the whole bunch, including Colin Powell. Well-paced, well-presented & well-read. It is shorter, more reportorial & less stylistically literary than The Best & The Brightest, but one has much the same reaction upon reading it. A powerful, but painful history. Here's hoping that this time America learns its lessons.
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- aaron
- 08-22-20
Should be required reading in all high schools nationwide
I’ve always held the firm belief that the blissfully idealistic days of wanting our presidents to be forces for good and righteousness in the world ended with JFK. Since Kennedy, a president’s legacy can fairly be judged by two criteria:
1. How many catastrophically bad decisions did they make, and
2. How many (if any) innocents Americans were needlessly killed or maimed due to these bad decisions.
Going by this metric, George W. and Trump are/were human dumpsterfires as president.
This book lays out in great detail the pointless, totally unnecessary war that George W. started in Iraq, for no reason other than a petty familial feud and a deep loathing for Saddam Hussein.
Not one American soldier should’ve lost their life because of a family feud. We are not living in the Dark Ages.
People need to know about what happened.
People need to read this book.
This book tells the apocryphal story of what happens when a president has his mind already made up on a potentially catastrophic course of action, and ignores the Smartest People in the Room who constantly advise him against it.
The similarities between Bush’s evidence-free insistence that Iraq was somehow an existential threat to America has so many similarities to Trump’s insistence that Covid was no big deal, that it’s not even worth mentioning. But, I mention it anyways, because I’m old enough to still remember a time when we as a nation, as well as our leaders, actually LEARNED from history. We learned from past mistakes.
Those days are over.
Equally as depressing, the days of wondering if the villains of this story - Cheney, Wolfy, Rumsfeld, and Bush - would face any consequences for needlessly ruining the lives of thousands of brave American servicemen are over as well. They will face no punishment. If anything, each of those men only became wealthier and even more powerful from their devious scheme. They live in luxury while the lives they needlessly ruined are buried in the sand.
History has (justifiably) ridiculed and castigated Hitler for starting a war under the false pretense that “Jews ruined Germany.” Yet none of America’s intellectuals or common folk seem to care one iota that Bush started a war under the false pretense of “Saddam is going to attack America with nukes and/or poison gas if we don’t hit him first.” I don’t know what the rationale is for castigating Hitler while praising Bush for essentially starting fire to the same kindling, but I’m all ears if someone would like to explain it to me.
This is one of the most important books of the year, and if there is a God, a few million Americans will read/listen to it, and take its message to heart.
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- Bill
- 06-05-22
Tour de force of lead up to Iraq war
Such an excellent Review of events leading up to Americas entry to the Iraq war. This brings back many memories in an compelling g style. Not just a chronological review but rather an excellent history on how we got there. Five stars.
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- Anonymous User
- 11-02-24
Eye opening
I love the unbiassed, and very human insight into the blunders of judgement that led us into war. Instead of the farcical portrayals in films like “W” or “Vice” this book proves the adage that the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
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- Rony
- 09-24-20
My first book on tape
I really liked this book and the was it was presented. It presents striking facts about the issue from a non-biased perspective.
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- Lockon
- 06-30-21
a great story of made up minds
I wanted to read this book because of my beliefs and the reason for the second Gulf War. I'm a skeptic of pretty much everything and so although I had my ideas of the reasons which I had accumulated from years of listening to the news and other sources, this book essentially confirmed the bulk of it. It was very interesting and deeply disturbing to learn more of the details and especially the thought process by the individuals involved.
The book is a very good lesson to learn about ulterior motives of people who should be vetted better and how it plays into people who have preconceived ideas about things which they should not carry into their professional capacity.
And although the book was kind on Bush and seemed to indicate otherwise, it was clear that he was also very manipulated by those under him.
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- Marynelle
- 09-04-20
If you’ve grown weary of the current GOP administration’s incompetence...
Come spend 15 hours learning about the arrogance and duplicity of the last one. Great book. Captures the group-think and bureaucratic bungling that can lead to a terrible decision in hindsight, foresight, and plain sight.
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- Michael
- 05-26-21
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Great book, great reading, awful situation. The book is actually I feel pretty charitable towards Bush, which was not what I was expecting, but clearly lays out his faults as a leader and how we got into this situation.
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- philip
- 08-13-20
How Not to Start a War
Excellent reporting/history. More than anything, this story shows the dangers of confirmation bias. These people were not evil, yet their biases led them to cherry pick what they wanted to see and what they wanted to see. In some cases this was intentional and those are awful people but even the best intentioned led the United States to commit horrible atrocities against a terrible ruler but good people. Corn and Isokoff called their book on the same topic « Hubris ». Perfect title. That is also a great book but this one offers a clearly perspective of time, as Hubris was written in 2006, at the height of the nightmare.
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