Welcome back to The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast with your hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell! This episode dives deep into the heartfelt and iconic Rain Man (1988). From its award-winning performances by Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise to its unique road trip narrative, we revisit this Best Picture Oscar winner to see how it holds up through modern eyes. Prepare for thoughtful discussions, behind-the-scenes stories, and a whole lot of 80s nostalgia!

PLUS! This is the last episode of this season... surprise! Ha ha. We are about to take a short break like we did last year in February and March, but this year we will have some exciting REBROADCAST episodes for you while you wait for fresh new Most Excellent 80s episodes to come at you on April 2nd!

Key Takeaways:

• Unlikely Brotherly Bond: At its core, Rain Man is a moving story about connection, empathy, and personal growth. Tom Cruise’s Charlie starts as a self-absorbed car dealer but evolves into a compassionate brother through his relationship with Raymond, an autistic savant played brilliantly by Dustin Hoffman. Their cross-country journey is filled with moments of tension, hilarity, and tenderness.
• Groundbreaking Representation: We explore the portrayal of autism in Rain Man—its impact on audiences and the conversations it sparked about neurodiversity. While Hoffman’s depiction of Raymond remains a cultural touchpoint, we also critique its limitations and the trope of the "magical savant."
• Road Trips, Rainstorms, and Redemption: The road trip format mirrors the internal transformation of its characters. Each pit stop—from counting cards in Las Vegas to intimate revelations about their shared past—brings the brothers closer together and pushes Charlie toward redemption.
• Cultural and Industry Context: Krissy and Nathan reminisce about the 80s as an era when heartfelt dramas like Rain Man dominated the box office—a stark contrast to today’s blockbuster-driven landscape. They also dive into fun facts, like how Steven Spielberg was originally slated to direct and the impact of the film’s soundtrack.

Other Topics Covered:

• Why Tom Cruise’s punchable 80s charm was perfect for this role.
• Valeria Golino’s standout performance as Charlie’s compassionate girlfriend.
• The nostalgic quirks of 80s filmmaking, from trailers to iconic soundtracks.
• A candid discussion on the ethics of actors portraying characters with disabilities.
• Memorable scenes, like the "toothpick count" and the tender dancing lesson.
• How Rain Man influenced future films and pop culture references (even The Hangover!).

Deep Cut Recommendations:

Krissy suggests The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt for its Rain Man homage and quirky humor. Nathan recommends E.T. for its focus on empathy and unlikely friendships.

Thank you for joining us on this heartfelt ride through Rain Man! Whether you’re here for the nostalgia, the analysis, or just to party on with us, we’re glad you’re along for the journey. Don’t forget to like, rate, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Keep the most excellent 80s movies motto in mind: Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes!

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Join hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell as they dive deep into one of the most bewildering teen films of the 1980s - Dream a Little Dream (1989). This surreal body-swap comedy starring the two Coreys (Feldman and Haim) alongside veteran actors Jason Robards and Piper Laurie proves to be a fascinating mess of metaphysical poetry, teen romance, and inexplicable violence.

Following a recommendation from previous guest Corey Feldman himself, our hosts unpack this peculiar film where an elderly couple's meditation experiment goes wrong, causing Jason Robards' consciousness to become trapped in Corey Feldman's teenage body. What follows is a two-hour journey filled with Michael Jackson dance numbers, cryptic dream sequences, and a surprisingly dark subplot involving an unhinged boyfriend with a gun.

The hosts discuss how the film's attempt to blend spiritual themes with teen comedy creates a confusing narrative that never quite comes together. They note how Corey Haim's character wasn't even in the original script, yet his improvised scenes end up being some of the most entertaining moments in the film. The podcast also explores the movie's bizarre editing choices, unnecessarily long runtime, and its struggle to maintain coherent character motivations.

Key topics covered:

• The unusual chemistry between Jason Robards and Corey Feldman
• Corey Haim's last-minute addition to the cast and his real-life broken leg
• The film's confusing dream logic and metaphysical elements
• Questionable subplot involving drugged teenagers and gun violence
• Extended Michael Jackson-inspired dance sequences
• The movie's marketing focus on "The Two Coreys" despite Haim's minimal role
• Discussion of the 1995 sequel Dream a Little Dream 2
• Comparison to other body-swap films like Freaky (2020)

In their final assessment, Krissy and Nathan rate the film three and four "broken legs" out of ten respectively, acknowledging its flaws while maintaining respect for the ambitious if misguided attempt to create something unique in the teen movie genre. While Dream a Little Dream may not be "so bad it's good," it certainly provides plenty of material for discussion and bewilderment.

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Join hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell with special guest Alice Baker as they roundhouse kick their way through Barry Gordy's 1985 martial arts musical mashup The Last Dragon. This cult classic blends kung fu action, Motown music, and 80s pop culture into a unique cinematic experience that defies traditional genre boundaries.

The hosts dive deep into the film's peculiar plot, following Leroy Green's quest to achieve "the glow" while navigating between two outrageous villains: the flamboyant Sho'nuff (played brilliantly by Julius Carry) and the unhinged video game mogul Eddie Arcadian. The discussion highlights how the movie, despite being a critical failure, became a beloved cultural touchstone, particularly in the Black community, spawning memorable catchphrases and iconic scenes.

The episode reveals fascinating behind-the-scenes details, including how the film nearly missed securing Bruce Lee footage rights and lost 40 pages of script in a fortunate accident that actually helped streamline the final cut. The hosts also explore the impressive Motown soundtrack, featuring collaborations with legendary musicians, though they agree some of the songs haven't aged as gracefully as others.

Key Topics Covered:

• Early career appearances by William H. Macy and Chazz Palminteri
• The impressive roster of actors who almost played Leroy, including Denzel Washington and Lawrence Fishburne
• Vanity's decision to choose this film over Purple Rain
• The cultural mixing of various martial arts styles and traditions
• The film's innovative blend of music video aesthetics with martial arts action
• Notable fight choreography by Robert van Cleef
• Young Ernie Reyes Jr.'s scene-stealing performance
• The movie's influence on future films, including possible Matrix connections
• Varying audience reactions and the film's revival screening appeal

Whether you're a longtime fan or discovering this unique piece of 80s cinema for the first time, this episode offers an entertaining deep dive into a film that perfectly encapsulates the decade's excess, style, and charm. The hosts rate it between 6-7 out of 10, agreeing that while the plot may meander, the entertainment value, particularly when watched with friends, makes it a worthwhile viewing experience.

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80s icon Corey Feldman joins The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast to discuss his new film Going Viral (2024), a nostalgic throwback that imagines what social media might have looked like in the 1980s. Hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell sit down with the star of classics like The Goonies and Stand By Me for an engaging conversation about this unique blend of retro aesthetics and modern technology.

Feldman describes Going Viral as a family-friendly adventure that captures the essence of 80s filmmaking while exploring an alternate reality where viral video fame existed alongside Nintendo Game Boys and arcade machines. The film follows a teen's quest for video stardom that takes a dark turn when a mysterious AI offers fame at a concerning price. With authentic period details like Pac-Man cabinets and Goonies posters decorating the background, the movie creates what Feldman calls a "parallel universe" version of 80s technology.

The conversation takes an introspective turn as Feldman discusses his approach to acting roles throughout his career, explaining how he's always strived to avoid typecasting by making each character distinct. He also shares candid insights about his journey through Hollywood, including his experiences with low-budget films in the early 90s and his pride in more serious artistic endeavors like The Birthday, which recently received its long-awaited US release.

Key Topics Covered:

• Details about Going Viral and its unique premise combining 80s aesthetics with modern social media concepts
• Feldman's role as a burnt-out competitive arcade gamer
• The careful attention to period detail in the film's production design
• Feldman's thoughts on what makes a good "background movie" for family viewing
• Discussion of Dream a Little Dream as a pivotal film in Feldman's career
• His experience contributing music to film soundtracks
• Reflections on working with legendary actors like Jason Robards and Harry Dean Stanton

The episode concludes with Feldman recommending Dream a Little Dream as the next film for the podcast to review, praising it as the "quintessential end of the 80s movie" that marked a more mature direction for himself and costar Corey Haim.

Catch Going Viral on Amazon and Apple for a fresh take on 80s nostalgia with a modern twist.

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National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation: A Hilarious Holiday Classic Dissected
Join the hosts of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast as they unwrap the comedic genius of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, the 1989 holiday comedy that has become a beloved family tradition for millions. Featuring special guests Adam and Megan Hughes Rini, this episode offers a deep dive into one of the most iconic Christmas movies of all time.

The Griswold Family Christmas: Chaos, Comedy, and Nostalgia
Chevy Chase stars as Clark Griswold, the well-intentioned but disaster-prone father determined to create the perfect family Christmas. The podcast breaks down the film's most memorable moments, from the epic Christmas tree hunt to the legendary light display that threatens to burn down the neighborhood. Hosts highlight how the movie captures the quintessential 80s family comedy, complete with John Hughes' signature touch of suburban humor and heart.

The episode explores the film's enduring appeal, discussing how the characters - from Beverly D'Angelo's patient Ellen to Randy Quaid's unforgettable Cousin Eddie - have become cultural touchstones. The guests share personal memories of watching the movie, revealing why it has become a holiday tradition for so many families.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The evolution of the National Lampoon's Vacation franchise
• Memorable scene breakdowns, including the infamous sledding sequence
• Behind-the-scenes trivia about the cast and production
• The film's representation of 1980s suburban family dynamics
• Why the movie continues to resonate with audiences decades later

Other Fascinating Moments Covered:

• The bizarre turkey dinner scene
• Clark's workplace bonus drama
• The hilarious interactions with yuppie neighbors Todd and Margo
• The legendary squirrel scene
• Comparing Christmas Vacation to other holiday comedies

The podcast wraps up with the hosts rating the movie - a near-perfect 9 out of 10 squirrels - and offering their personal deep-cut movie recommendations. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a first-time viewer, this episode offers a nostalgic and laugh-filled exploration of a true holiday comedy classic.

Don't miss this ultimate Christmas Vacation deep dive - it's the gift that keeps on giving!

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Step into the DeLorean with hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell as they revisit the mind-bending 1989 sequel Back to the Future Part II. This zany time-traveling adventure pushes Marty McFly and Doc Brown to their limits as they navigate multiple timelines, alternate realities, and a dystopian version of Hill Valley ruled by the villainous Biff Tannen.

The hosts dive deep into how Back to the Future Part II differs from its predecessor, noting its darker tone and more complex narrative structure. They explore how the film effectively splits into three distinct sections: the retro-futuristic 2015 sequence, the nightmarish alternate 1985, and the return to 1955 that cleverly interweaves with events from the first film. Nathan shares his initial disappointment with the sequel upon its 1989 release, while Krissy maintains her longtime love for its imaginative storytelling.

Special praise is given to the performances, particularly Thomas F. Wilson's versatility in playing multiple versions of Biff Tannen and Lea Thompson's range as various incarnations of Lorraine. The hosts also discuss how the film introduced many viewers to concepts like the multiverse and alternate timelines through Doc Brown's simple yet effective explanation of the space-time continuum.

Other topics covered:

• The film's prescient portrayal of Biff as a Trump-like figure in the alternate 1985
• The extensive merchandising campaign, including Pizza Hut's promotional sunglasses
• Christopher Lloyd's ageless performance as Doc Brown
• How the film serves as part one of a larger story concluding in Back to the Future Part III
• The practical effects and set design used to transform Hill Valley across different time periods
• The controversial addition of Marty's "chicken" character flaw
• The enduring appeal of the film's retro-futuristic 2015 aesthetic
• The Universal Studios clock tower set and its various iterations

While rating the film, Nathan gives it a 7.5 out of 10 sports almanacs, noting how his appreciation has grown over time, while Krissy awards it a solid 9, placing it just below the perfect 10s she gives to parts one and three. The hosts conclude that while Part II may be the most divisive entry in the trilogy, its ambitious storytelling and creative world-building have helped it age into a unique and essential chapter in the Back to the Future saga.

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Join hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell, along with special guest Nate McWhortor, as they dive into the cult classic Evil Dead II (1987). This episode is packed with spine-tingling insights and hilarious commentary on one of the most beloved horror-comedies of all time. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a newcomer to the franchise, you won’t want to miss this thrilling discussion!

Evil Dead II is not just a sequel; it’s a reimagining that combines slapstick humor with horror in a way that only Sam Raimi could pull off. The hosts explore the film's unique blend of genres, showcasing how it successfully balances terror and comedy. They delve into Bruce Campbell’s iconic portrayal of Ash Williams, examining his character's evolution from the first film to this sequel and how it set the standard for future horror heroes.

The discussion also touches on the film's groundbreaking practical effects, which contributed to its lasting impact on the horror genre. Krissy, Nathan, and Nate analyze the creative decisions that led to some of the most memorable and terrifying moments, from the possessed furniture to the infamous chainsaw hand.

Additionally, the hosts share their thoughts on the film's cultural significance and its role in establishing a devoted fan base. They highlight how Evil Dead II influenced countless films and inspired a new wave of horror-comedy that we still see today.

Key Takeaways:

• Genre-Blending Masterpiece: Evil Dead II is a pioneering example of combining horror with slapstick humor, setting a precedent for future films.
• Iconic Performance: Bruce Campbell's Ash Williams becomes a horror icon, with a blend of charisma and humor that defines the character.
• Innovative Effects: The film's practical effects and creative direction remain influential in the horror genre.
• Cultural Impact: Evil Dead II has left a lasting mark on pop culture, inspiring generations of filmmakers and fans alike.

Other Topics Covered:

• The film's memorable one-liners and quotes
• Behind-the-scenes stories from the making of Evil Dead II
• Comparisons with the original The Evil Dead
• The legacy of Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell
• A look at the film’s reception over the year

Tune in for an episode that celebrates the campy terror and comedic genius of Evil Dead II. Whether you're revisiting this classic or watching it for the first time, Krissy, Nathan, and Nate's insights will make you appreciate the film in a whole new light. Don’t forget to subscribe for more deep dives into the most excellent 80s movies!

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Join hosts Nathan Blackwell and Krissy Lenz as they dive into the groundbreaking 1980 workplace comedy 9 to 5, starring Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, and Dolly Parton in her film debut. This feminist revenge fantasy became the first female-led film to break $100 million at the box office, but does it hold up today?

The hosts explore how the film starts as a grounded workplace drama about three women dealing with their sexist boss (Dabney Coleman) before taking several unexpected turns into screwball comedy territory. After a marijuana-fueled evening of revenge fantasies, the story evolves into an outrageous caper involving suspected poisoning, stolen corpses, and an elaborate kidnapping scheme.

While the movie's pacing occasionally drags and some scenes feel theatrical, the incredible chemistry between the three leads keeps the film engaging. The hosts give particular praise to Dolly Parton and Lily Tomlin's performances, noting how naturally they take to their roles. The film's workplace reform message - including equal pay, flexible hours, and daycare - remains surprisingly relevant, even if some of the comedy feels dated.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The iconic opening credits sequence set to Dolly Parton's 9 to 5
• How the film shifts from office satire to madcap comedy
• Each character's elaborate fantasy sequence for getting revenge on their boss
• The progressive workplace changes implemented by the women
• Sterling Hayden's cameo as the Chairman of the Board
• The film's influence on workplace comedy genre
• Deep cut recommendations including Sorry to Bother You and the British version of The Office
• Discussion of Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin's later collaboration on Grace and Frankie

Nathan and Krissy rate the film 7 out of 10 "typewriters," agreeing that while some scenes drag and the tone shifts dramatically, 9 to 5 remains an entertaining time capsule of 1980s workplace culture and feminist comedy. Whether you're revisiting this classic or discovering it for the first time, there's plenty to appreciate in this pioneering film that helped pave the way for women-led comedies.

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