Episodes

  • Ep. 9: Who Killed Whitney?
    Mar 14 2022

    In the final episode of our season we take a look back at the case as we know it. We unpack everything we have discovered throughout the season, identify still unanswered questions, and walk through several possible scenarios of the case.

    [This episode is completely theories and conjectures of the case.]

    Links:

    Whitney Houston vacuums on The Magic Johnson Show 1998 (@ 7:42)

    Pat Houston Caught On Tape Talking Trash About Whitney Houston and Bobbi Kristina. (YouTube 2018)

    Resources:

    Miller, Julie. "Whitney Houston's Dark Family Secret Uncovered in New Documentary." Vanity Fair. 16 May 2018.

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    35 mins
  • Ep. 8: Bobbi Kristina
    Mar 2 2022

    Episode 8: Three years after Whitney Houston's untimely death in the tub in her Beverly Hilton Hotel room, her daughter, Bobbi Kristina Brown, is found floating face-down in her tub, and dies a few months later. There is no way to investigate Whitney Houston's death, without also discussing the similar death of her daughter as well.

    In this episode we break down the story of Bobbi Kristina's final days. We discuss the reality show the family did after Whitney died and Bobbi Kristina's relationship with Nick Gordon. We then review the facts from the day she drowned and the details from the coroner's report.

    We consider Bobby Brown's claims that the two deaths are connected. And finally we discuss a wild story by the "author" Winford Salmon.

    References:
    "An Urgent Warning from Bobby Brown." Red Table Talk. 14 April 2021.

    Bedella C. Hargrove, an Administratrix and next friend for Bobbi Kristina Brown v. Nicholas Gordon. Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia. (2015).

    Bobby Brown testifies in wrongful death lawsuit. Fox 5 Atlanta. (YouTube 2016)

    Diaz, Evelyn. "Bobbi Kristina's Friend Describing Nick Gordon's Abuse is Heartbreaking." BET. 7 December 2015.

    Dr. Phil March 11 2015 Full Episode The Nick Gordon Intervention. (YouTube 2015)

    Dr. Phil Opens Up About His Intense Sit-Down with Nick Gordon. ExtraTV. (YouTube 2015)

    Gleeson, Colin. "Adults drowning in baths 'very rare,' says Irish Water Safety." The Irish Times. 7 Sept 2018.

    Karimi, Faith and Jason Hanna. "Drugs, near-drowning led to Bobbi Kristina Brown's death." CNN.com. 4 March 2016.

    Kile, Meredith B. and Desiree Murphy. "Bobbi Kristina Brown: A Tragic Timeline." ETOnline.com. 1 January 2020.

    Lin, Rong-Gong II. "Nick Gordon, who was found liable for death of partner Bobbi Kristina Brown, dies at 30." Los Angeles Times. 1 January 2020.

    Moyer, Justin Wm. "Bobbi Kristina Brown 'didn't really hide' drug use in final days, friend says in deposition." The Washington Post. 27 October 2015.

    Quinn, Dave and Elissa Rosen. "Max Lomas -- Who Discovered Bobbi Kristina Brown Unconscious -- Dead of Reported Overdose." People. 17 August 2018.

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    53 mins
  • Ep. 7: Addicted to the Devil
    Feb 23 2022

    Episode 7: In this episode we take a deep dive into conspiracy theories and conjecture. We discuss Bobby Brown's theory that Nick Gordon killed both Whitney and Bobbi Kristina. Then we dive into some of the more outrageous theories of the case including PI Pat/Paul, who claims to have found footage of gangsters from New Jersey and Georgia sneaking into Whitney's hotel room, and Winford Salmon, the self-published author who claims to have interviewed Whitney Houston's killer, "Snitch". We also throw in an Illuminati conspiracy at the end for good measure.

    Disclaimer: We cannot confirm the validity of any of the theories discussed in this episode, only their source and claims.

    Links:

    "An Urgent Warning from Bobby Brown." Red Table Talk. 14 April 2021.

    Resources:

    Kawfmann, Dawna and John Blosser. "Exclusive Cover Story: Whitney Houston Was Murdered!" National Enquirer. 27 December 2012.

    Kaufmann, Dawna and John Blosser. "World Exclusive: Whitney Houston Murder Confidential." National Enquirer. 31 December 2012.

    Parker, Mike. "Whitney Houston Paid Off Drug Gangsters to Save Bobby Brown." Larry King Live/CNN.com. 5 April 2009.

    Salmon, Winford. "The Murder of Whitney Houston: Confession of the Killer." CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. 04 January 2014.

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    42 mins
  • Ep. 6: The Trauma of Fame
    Feb 16 2022

    Episode 6: A long-form interview with Dr. Latrice Fowler, a military psychologist who specializes in treating addiction. Dr. Fowler joined us to review Whitney Houston's autopsy and toxicology report, but our conversation was so much more. We discussed the nature of addiction, how it affects our families and society, how the system treats people with addictions, the racial and gender disparities between how society regards various addictions, and even cyberbullying. Through the course of this conversation, Dr. Folwer helped us answer a lot of questions, and also identified a few still left unanswered.


    Resources:

    County of Los Angeles. (2012). Coroner's Report (Case No. 2012-01022). Los Angeles, CA. Retrieved from abcnews.com

    Special thanks to our guest, Dr. Latrice Fowler.

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    58 mins
  • Bonus: I Will Always Love You
    Feb 11 2022

    Bonus Episode: We are paying tribute to Whitney Houston on the occasion of the 10 year memorial of her death. Whitney Houston holds a special place in music history, she broke barriers and set records and influenced the culture. We discuss our first Whitney memories, favorite moments, greatest songs, best outfits, and create the unofficial Whitney Houston Hall of Fame.

    Whitney, we will always love you.


    Songs:
    All The Man That I Need (YouTube 2009)

    Higher Love (YouTube 2019)

    How Will I Know (YouTube 2009)

    How Will I Know (a cappella) (YouTube 2012)

    It's Not Right But It's Okay (YouTube 2009)

    I Wanna Dance With Somebody (YouTube 2009)

    Star Spangled-Banner (YouTube 2012)

    Interviews:
    Whitney Houston Diane Sawyer Interview, ABC News. (YouTube 2012)

    Whitney Houston on The Magic Johnson Show 1998 (YouTube 2015)

    Whitney Houston Oprah Winfrey Interview, OWN (YouTube 2020)

    Whitney Houston Wendy Williams 2003 (YouTube 2019)

    Links:
    Bodyguard Scarf Cut (YouTube 2012)

    Fergie singing the national anthem as a children's book | Fergamerican National Anthem (YouTube 2021)

    Resources:

    Seal, Mark. "The Devils in the Diva." Vanity Fair, June 2012.

    Smith, Danyel. "When Whitney Hit the High Note." ESPN The Magazine, 01 February 2016.

    Whitney. Directed by Kevin Macdonald. Produced by Lisa Erspamer Entertainment, Lightbox, Roadside Attractions, and Miramax. 2018.

    Whitney Houston & Bobbi Kristina: Didn't We Almost Have It All. Lifetime Television, 2021.

    Special thanks to our guest, Jennie.

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    44 mins
  • Ep. 5: The Water is Evil
    Feb 9 2022

    Episode 5: It's CSI Beverly Hills in this episode as we take a deep dive into Whitney Houston's autopsy report. According to the coroner, the cause of death is drowning due to the effects of heart disease and cocaine.

    We dig into every detail of the report, break down each of the the aspects (drowning, heart disease, and cocaine use), consult an expert on the water temperature in the tub, and attempt to piece together the testimony we know with the physical evidence in the report. Spoiler alert: it doesn't quite fit.

    In the end one key question remains: is the water really evil?

    Links:

    Dr. Drew analyzes Whitney’s autopsy. HLN. (YouTube 2012).

    Full 2-part interview with Whitney Houston & Oprah Winfrey (YouTube 2020).

    Resources:

    Blankstein, Andrew. “Cop: I Was Demoted for Reporting Ogling of Whitney Houston’s Body.” nbcnews.com, 10 March 2014.

    Budnick, Lawrence D., MD, MPH, and David A. Ross, DSc. (1985). Bathtub-Related Drownings in the United States, 1979-81. AJPH, Vol. 75, No. 6.

    County of Los Angeles. (2012). Coroner's Report (Case No. 2012-01022). Los Angeles, CA. Retrieved from abcnews.com

    Dolak, Kevin and Sheila Marikar. “Whitney Houston’s Death: 9 Surprising Details in Coroner’s Report.” abcnews.com, 5 April 2012.

    Duke, Alan. “Whitney Houston drowned in a foot of hot water, autopsy says.” CNN, 5 April 2012.

    Gleeson, Colin. "Adults drowning in baths 'very rare,' says Irish Water Safety." The Irish Times. 7 Sept 2018.

    Seal, Mark. "The Devils in the Diva." Vanity Fair, June 2012.

    Stevens, Matt. “Claim alleges cop peeked at Whitney Houston’s naked body.” Los Angeles Times, 17 Sept 2013.

    Whitney. Directed by Kevin Macdonald. Produced by Lisa Erspamer Entertainment, Lightbox, Roadside Attractions, and Miramax. 2018.

    Whitney Houston & Bobbi Kristina: Didn't We Almost Have It All. Lifetime Television, 2021.

    Wick, Krista. “Whitney Houston’s Autopsy: An Expert Weighs in.” etonline.com, 5 April 2012.

    Special thanks to Dr. Justin Park, PhD, Kennesaw State University

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    54 mins
  • Ep 4: Heartbreak Hotel
    Feb 2 2022

    Episode 4: Grab a pen and your notebook because in this episode we're sharing all the details from the infamous Clive Davis Pre-Grammy Party the night Whitney Houston died. The Beverly Hilton was buzzing with media and celebrities while Whitney's body was still upstairs. We find out who was in attendance, what was the mood, who performed, what was on the dinner menu, and why the party wasn't cancelled.

    Then we introduce the most outrageous party guest yet: Raffles Van Exel, a celebrity hanger-on and member of Whitney's entourage. Buckle up because this is one wild ride: from "How To" Con videos, to sneaking into the Neverland Ranch, to finessing his way into owning part of a music icon's estate. You won't want to miss the story of Raffles.


    Links

    Chaka Khan, Clive Davis Party was 'Insanity." (YouTube 2012).

    Clive Davis On Why He Had Grammy Party After Whitney Houston's Death | Larry King Now. (YouTube 2013).

    Jennifer Hudson - I Will Always Love You (54th GRAMMYs on CBS). (YouTube 2012)

    Is Raffles Van Exel Really Serious (YouTube 2012).

    Roger Friedman Calls for Investigation into Raffles Van Exel (YouTube 2012)

    Who is Raffles Van Exel (YouTube 2012)

    Resources

    Bruntjen v. Van Exel, 506 F. Supp. 3d 673 (D. Minn. 2020)

    County of Los Angeles. (2012). Coroner's Report (Case No. 2012-01022). Los Angeles, CA. Retrieved from abcnews.com

    Franciscan, Chris and Brittany Bacon. "ABC News Exclusive: 'If I Did It': OJ's Daughter's Idea. abcnews.com, 16 June 2007.

    Friedman, Roger. "Exclusive Notes From Clive Davis Grammy Party." Showbiz411.com. 12 February 2012.

    Jackson v. Stark, State Court of Minnesota. (2020)

    Reilly, Mark. "Prince estate fights even thornier with heir's death and will." Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal. 23 February 2020.

    Seal, Mark. "The Devils in the Diva." Vanity Fair, June 2012.

    Shoemaker, Jessica. "Death of Prince heir prompts contested will." Missouri Lawyers Media. 28 February 2020.

    Simpson, Arnelle. Deposition. United States Bankruptcy Court S.D. Fla. 2007.

    Sisario, Ben. "Whitney Houston's Estate Pla

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    47 mins
  • Ep. 3: Room 434
    Jan 26 2022

    Episode 3: Whitney Houston died on February 11, 2012 in Room 434 of the Beverly Hilton hotel. In this episode we walk through the details of Whitney's day leading up to the moment she is found in her tub.

    Hosts George and Shakirah break down in detail the accounts of witnesses from Whitney's entourage including her assistant, Mary Jones, and manager, Pat Houston’s. We listen to the 911 call, discuss what police found when they entered the room, and begin dissecting the coroner's report.

    And if you’ve ever wanted a candle that smells like Love, then they’ve also got you covered!

    Links:

    Tour of Beverly Hilton Room 434

    911 Call

    Resources:

    County of Los Angeles. (2012). Coroner's Report (Case No. 2012-01022). Los Angeles, CA. Retrieved from abcnews.com

    Seal, Mark. "The Devils in the Diva." Vanity Fair, June 2012.

    “The Day Whitney Houston Died | Oprah's Next Chapter | Oprah Winfrey Network” (YouTube, 2012)

    Whitney. Directed by Kevin Macdonald. Produced by Lisa Erspamer Entertainment, Lightbox, Roadside Attractions, and Miramax. 2018.

    Whitney Houston & Bobbi Kristina: Didn't We Almost Have It All. Lifetime Television, 2021.

    Yan, Holly and Denise Quan. "Music exec: Whitney Houston looked 'healthy and beautiful days earlier." CNN.com, 12 Feb., 2012.

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