Gokul Rajaram, a renowned product leader and investor—shares his insights on the evolving AI landscape, startup success strategies, and the future of product management. Hosted by Amit Fulay, VP of Product at Microsoft, this conversation covers how AI is shifting from model training to enterprise adoption, why founders must master hiring and fundraising, and the key ingredients to building a scalable company.

Gokul dives deep into what makes a startup’s AI moat defensible, how to articulate risk to investors, and the importance of product-led growth in today’s market. Whether you're a founder, investor, or product leader, this episode is packed with tactical advice on navigating AI disruption, hiring top talent, and leveraging storytelling for startup success.

What You Will Learn:

✅ The biggest shifts in AI and startup funding

✅ How to build a defensible moat in AI

✅ Why hiring and team credibility matter more than ever

✅ The role of narrative in securing funding

✅ How AI startups should focus on enterprise adoption over model training

✅ The evolving role of product managers in the AI era

Episode Highlights:

[04:12] – Scale vs. efficiency: How DeepSeek reshaped AI

[08:45] – AI startups don’t need massive capital, they need better tools

[12:00] – The real moat in AI: Private data & complex workflows

[19:02] – Why great founders deeply understand customer pain points

[21:53] – If you’re not aiming for 10x growth, you’re already behind

[30:06] – Founders must spend 20-30% of their time hiring

[26:54] – The evolution of product managers: Why prototyping is essential

[35:54] – "Get on the rocket ship—figure out your seat later."

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Aki Taha, a former Google, Uber, and Netflix talent expert turned founder of Talent Stories. Aki through his conversations with Samir Khadepaun, Founder of Wizly, shares his insights on how the future of work is evolving, why traditional hiring models are breaking, and how leaders can attract and retain top talent in a decentralized world.

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What You Will Learn:

Why the gap between business needs and employee expectations is growing

How talent practitioners can bridge the gap between leadership and employees

The shift from corporate careers to independent work and portfolio careers

How Silicon Valley's unique culture fosters rapid innovation

Why clarity and flexibility are the future of hiring.

Highlights:

[05:23] The personal story that led Aki into talent strategy

[08:43] The biggest tension between business leaders and employees.

[14:20] Why startups struggle with scaling culture

[19:06] The difference between founders who value talent and those who don’t

[26:31] How companies evolve and what happens when they don’t

[33:46] The biggest shifts in how people are working today

[44:50] How to embrace career uncertainty and take control of your path

The Wize Ones podcast features leading operators, subject matter experts, VCs, and founders interviewing each other to reveal insights into how they built and scaled their products, software, and ideas. We speak to the top 5% of people in the world of GTM to get first-hand insights, case studies, and real-life examples of what worked and what didn't.

This podcast is produced byWizly and powered by its global community of professionals. Wizly is an AI-powered platform that helps experts organize, scale, and monetize their knowledge.

Satjiv Chahil, a Silicon Valley icon who led transformative marketing campaigns at Apple, HP, and Palm. Satjiv shares invaluable insights on balancing innovation with stability, avoiding arrogance, and driving global impact through partnerships. Learn about the making of the iconic "I'm a PC" campaign, the future of AI in addressing the digital divide, and why partnerships always trump sponsorships in creating lasting value.

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What You Will Learn:

• How to lead transformative marketing campaigns that resonate globally
• The balance between innovation and maintaining revenue streams
• The importance of partnerships over sponsorships for amplifying marketing efforts
• How AI can drive global equality and bridge the digital divide
• Key leadership lessons from decades in Silicon Valley

Highlights: [02:10] Avoiding Organizational Arrogance [06:45] Guiding Principles for Transformative Leadership [10:12] Recognizing Future Needs in Technology [14:20] Lessons from the "I'm a PC" Campaign [18:48] Leveraging Partnerships Over Sponsorships [22:35] A Global Mindset in Marketing [26:10] AI’s Role in Addressing the Digital Divide [31:50] Leadership Insights for Startups [37:20] Closing the Digital Divide in India [42:15] Driving Social and Technological Impact

The Wize Ones podcast features leading operators, subject matter experts, VCs, and founders interviewing each other to reveal insights into how they built and scaled their products, software, and ideas. We speak to the top 5% of people in the world of GTM to get first-hand insights, case studies, and real-life examples of what worked and what didn't.

This podcast is produced by Wizly and powered by its global community of professionals. Wizly is an AI-powered platform that helps experts organize, scale, and monetize their knowledge.