The Sandy and Dave Show: Coaching Conversations for Coaches

By: Sandy Swanson and David Shen
  • Summary

  • If you are a new coach or thinking about becoming a coach, this podcast will provide you with tips and strategies to help you become more confident with your coaching conversations, your coaching business, and yourself. We’re Sandy Swanson and David Shen, and we are ICF, NBHWC, and ADAPT certified coaches. We’ll be talking about coaching competencies and session structure and will also dive into other aspects of psychology and other non-traditional modalities that have taken us past the usual “surface-level” or “transactional” type of coaching. Visit us at: https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/
    Copyright 2023 The Sandy and Dave Show All Rights Reserved. All audio and related podcast content is property of The Sandy and Dave Show and shall not be copied, redistributed, or repurposed without written consent of owners.
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Episodes
  • Leading without Leading
    Jun 29 2024

    Wait, leading? Isn't that BAD in coaching sessions? Yes, and no. Leading *without leading* is pretty much in our job descriptions as coaches. We'll discuss this, why it can be good OR bad, and offer our two-point failsafe method to "lead without leading" that we use in our sessions.

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    What do we mean by "leading"?

    What do we mean by "leading without leading?"

    What Dave prefers to call this

    Discussion of why this is good - and bad - and how to do it using Dave's patented "lead without leading" method

    Sandy shares what ICF PCC markers speak to this topic

    The three things Sandy hears in session reviews from new coaches

    How to practice this skill

    The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here:
    November 2020 ICF PCC Markers

    Find Dave at coachdshen.com

    Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com

    Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website

    Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

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    35 mins
  • Chemistry Sessions for Coaches
    Apr 13 2024

    Chemistry sessions. What are they? What should they include? What SHOULDN'T they include? And why does Sandy dislike that term, ""chemistry"" (major air quotes there)? These answers and more are discussed in this episode! Be sure to scroll down if you'd like a copy of Sandy's First Session Road Map if you need some structure to your initial sessions with potential clients.

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    The purpose of chemistry sessions

    Length of these sessions

    Do we charge for these initial sessions?

    Structure of chemistry sessions

    Thoughts on coaching during this first session

    Thoughts on "selling" to potential clients

    Have we ever said "no" to a potential client?

    Chemistry sessions when working for a coaching company (BetterUp, Modern Health, Spring Health, AbleTo, etc) - do they even exist in this realm? If so, how are they different?

    People.... people who need.... people... listen to this volume UP to hear the way this song should be sung. By Jule Styne and Bob Merrill featuring the original Funny Girl herself.

    ICF Guidelines on referring a client to therapy

    NBHWC (National Board for Health and Wellness Coaches) does not have any resources regarding therapy referrals that we could find.

    CLICK HERE for Sandy's First Session Road Map

    Find Dave at coachdshen.com

    Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com

    Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website

    Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

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    49 mins
  • Language in Coaching Conversations
    Feb 10 2024

    Let's talk LANGUAGE! We're all taught to "use your client's language", but what about the coach's language? And what if you purposefully use language that is *opposite* of the words your client just spoke, what happens then...? What the heck is NLP, anyways, and why are we obsessed with it??  All of this and more in this episode. Enjoy!

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    What's important about language in coaching sessions

    Thinking/feeling language

    How trust/rapport come into play when using language

    Using different language than your client - on purpose

    Internal vs external language

    Away vs towards language

    Flourishing vs languishing language

    Violent language and metaphors

    Cultural differences and coaching in a second language

    Practices for coaches to try in their sessions

    Holistic Coach Podcast (interview with Sandy)

    Introduction to NLP (book)

    The Power of Language

     

    Find Dave at coachdshen.com

    Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com

    Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website

     

    Intro and outro music by JuliusH. Thanks Julius!

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    54 mins

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