The Head & The Heart

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  • Summary

  • The Head and the Heart Podcast is a series of conversations exploring current affairs, ideas, and themes that shape civic and cultural life. We aim to elevate public dialogue by giving important topics a forum where the time and space exists to investigate them fully. And then asking ourselves why we believe what we believe about a subject. Are our opinions thoughtfully held, or have we been successfully marketed to? In essence, are we motivated by the head or by our hearts? The Head and the Heart is hosted by life-long friends whose on-going conversations are the inspiration for this podcast. Perry Rogers is a sports agent and brand management expert; and Ed Borgato is an investor, fund manager, and business consultant. Together, they will interview thought-leaders, politicians, journalists, authors, and other cultural figures from across the spectrum of American life. Their hope is that listeners will learn and think along side them; satisfying their curiosity, and perhaps challenging their own assumptions.
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Episodes
  • Episode 25: The Worldview of David Frum
    Feb 3 2023
    Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with David Frum, political columnist for The Atlantic and former speechwriter for President George W. Bush. Frum, who is Canadian-American, shares his unique perspective on the history of American-led democracy and how it has evolved. In this wide-ranging conversation, Frum delves into the resurgence of political interest in the United States, why there will only ever be two political parties, America's role in the war between Russia and Ukraine, and why the Republican Party of today seems to be standing against the ideals of its past. With Frum's in-depth analysis and thoughtful commentary, this episode provides a deep dive into the current state of American democracy and offers a hopeful vision for its future. Don't miss this engaging conversation with one of the most insightful voices in politics today. David Frum has been active in Republican politics since the first Reagan campaign of 1980. From 2014 through 2017, Frum served as chairman of the board of trustees of the leading UK center-right think tank, Policy Exchange. In 2001-2002, he served as speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush. He holds a BA and MA in history from Yale and a law degree from Harvard, where he served as President of the Federalist Society. Frum is the author of ten books, most recently TRUMPOCALYPSE: Restoring American Democracy (HarperCollins, 2020). His first book, Dead Right, won praise from William F. Buckley as “the most refreshing intellectual experience in a generation” and from Frank Rich in the New York Times as “the smartest book written from the inside about the American conservative movement.”
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Episode 24: Leadership and Service with David Gergen
    Jan 20 2023

    As an advisor to Presidents, and as a journalist and teacher, David Gergen has enriched the civic health of our nation. From the U.S. Navy to the West Wing, he as committed virtually his entire life to serving our country. In today’s episode, David shares his perspective on public service, and the importance of character, moral purpose, and truth telling. It’s an honor to share this very special conversation with a giant of civic life and public service.

    David Gergen is a professor of public service and founding director of the Center for Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School. In addition, he serves as a senior political analyst for CNN. In the past, he has served as a White House adviser to four U.S. presidents of both parties: Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton. He wrote about those experiences in his New York Times best-seller, Eyewitness to Power: The Essence of Leadership, Nixon to Clinton (Simon & Schuster, 2001).

    In the 1980s, he began a career in journalism. Starting with the MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour in 1984, he has been a regular commentator on public affairs for some 30 years. Twice he has been a member of election coverage teams that won Peabody awards, and he has contributed to two Emmy award-winning political analysis teams. In the late 1980s, he was chief editor of U.S. News & World Report.

    Over the years, he has been active on many non-profit boards, serving in the past on the boards of both Yale and Duke Universities. Among his current boards are Teach for America, The Mission Continues, The Trilateral Commission, and Elon University’s School of Law.

    David's work as director of the Center for Public Leadership at the Kennedy School has enabled him to work closely with a rising generation of younger leaders, especially social entrepreneurs, military veterans and Young Global Leaders chosen by the World Economic Forum. Through the generosity of outside donors, the Center helps to provide scholarships to over 100 students a year, preparing them to serve as leaders for the common good. The Center also promotes scholarship at the frontiers of leadership studies.

    A native of North Carolina, David is a member of the D.C. Bar, a veteran of the U.S. Navy, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a member of the U.S. executive committee for the Trilateral Commission. He is an honors graduate of Yale and the Harvard Law School. He has been awarded 27 honorary degrees.

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Episode 23: Strongmen: A lesson with Ruth Ben-Ghiat
    Nov 17 2022

    Why do people believe liars? How do authoritarians enthrall a nation? Historian and Author Ruth Ben-Ghiat joins the Head and the Heart to discuss her book Strongmen: Mussolini To The Present. In this episode she offers her fascinating analysis of fascism and highlights the modern authoritarian leaders who exhibit these all too familiar tendencies. Ed & Perry examine the through line of corruption, violence, and toxic masculinity that are often characteristic of past and present authoritarian political leaders, and they attempt to find an answer as to why these men are often popular and beloved by their followers.

    Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a historian who writes about authoritarianism, democracy, and propaganda. She is Professor of History and Italian Studies at New York University, the recipient of Guggenheim, Fulbright, and other fellowships, and Advisor to Protect Democracy. She is an MSNBC opinion columnist, a regular contributor to CNN and The Washington Post, and provides live commentary on CNN, MSNBC, and other networks.

    Follow Ed & Perry on Twitter @Head_Heart_Pod

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    50 mins

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