Misha Putiatin is CoFounder of Symbiotic and Francisco Agosti is CoFounder of Tanssi.

In this episode, we interview Misha and Francisco break about the launch of Symbiotic Mainnet and how it finally brings to fruition a long anticipated vision for shared security for decentralized networks. We also dive into how Tanssi is making blockchain deployment seamless, enabling developers to spin up sovereign chains with ease.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:01 - What is Symbiotic?
9:42 - What is Tanssi?
12:23 - Designing Symbiotic to be both immutable and flexible
16:34 - The importance of decentralization
19:58 - How Tanssi productizes Symbiotic shared security for developers?
24:43 - Mantle mid-roll
25:22 - How are builders leveraging Tanssi?
29:45 - How does Symbiotic differ from EigenLayer?
32:49 - Moonwell & Puffer Finance mid-roll
34:04 - Why did Tanssi build on Symbiotic?
35:49 - Symbiotic Mainnet and what happens next?
40:26 - Tanssi Let’s Forkin’ Dance program
41:58 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Symbiotic website: https://symbiotic.fi/
► Symbiotic on X/Twitter: https://x.com/symbioticfi
► Misha on X/Twitter: https://x.com/psalom
► Tanssi website: https://www.tanssi.network/
► Tanssi Let's Forkin' Dance program: https://lfd.tanssi.network/
► Tanssi on X/Twitter: https://x.com/tanssinetwork
► Francisco on X/Twitter: https://x.com/fjagosti

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Gaspard Peduzzi is CoFounder of Spectra Finance, joined by Tim Shekikhachev, CoFounder of Resolv and Amadeo Brands, Founder of YieldNest.

In this episode, we host a panel to discuss how to use the decentralized, permissionless interest rate protocol that is Spectra, how it grew to over $220M TVL in less than 8 months, and how it enables users to earn fixed rates and trade yields while protocols can grow liquidity.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
1:26 - Founding of Spectra
4:38 - Sponsor pre-roll
6:57 - How is Spectra different from Pendle?
8:12 - What’s made Spectra such a breakout app?
10:17 - What is Resolv building?
13:58 - How Spectra and partner protocols benefit each other
16:58 - How Spectra helps protocols build community
19:12 - What is YieldNest and why do they work with Spectra?
22:07 - Sponsor mid-roll
23:49 - How ve(3,3) bribes work on Spectra?
25:42 - Thoughts on Spectra’s permissionless pool creation
33:47 - How will Spectra keep growing after points hype?
40:08 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Spectra website: https://www.spectra.finance/
► Spectra on X/Twitter: https://x.com/spectra_finance
► Gaspard Peduzzi on X/Twitter: https://x.com/GaspardPeduzzi
► Resolv website: https://resolv.xyz/
► Tim Shekikhachev on X/Twitter: https://x.com/timsheki
► YieldNest website: https://www.yieldnest.finance/
► Amadeo Brands on X/Twitter: https://x.com/amadeobrands

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Tarun Gupta is the Founder at Coinshift.

In this episode, we review a new yield-bearing stablecoin called csUSDL, designed to be the ultimate treasury reserve asset. With hundreds of billions sitting idle in stablecoins, Coinshift hopes to provide DAOs, onchain liquid funds, and even retail DeFi users with permissionless access to a more scalable yield-bearing stablecoin backed by RWAs. This is a great episode to also understand why builders work with Morpho, and why they see such a huge opportunity to meet the demand for yield-bearing stablecoins onchain.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
4:31 - Coinshift Accounting & Payments
7:47 - The state of how DAOs operate
9:59 - What is csUSDL?
13:04 - What’s unique about csUSDL?
15:58 - Who should use csUSDL?
17:08 - Mantle mid-roll
17:46 - Partnering with Paxos, Morpho, Steakhouse Financial
23:13 - How Coinshift maps to TradFi banking roles
26:48 - Challenges to building csUSDL
31:17 - Moonwell & GOAT Network mid-roll
32:24 - Coinshift incentive alignment with Morpho curators
34:02 - Use cases for csUSDL
36:14 - Possible future for csUSDL collateral
38:09 - Plans for SHIFT utility
40:35 - Partnering with large players to build csUSDL liquidity
43:26 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Coinshift website: https://www.coinshift.xyz/
► Coinshift on X/Twitter: https://x.com/0xcoinshift
► Tarun on X/Twitter: https://x.com/tarungupta1475

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All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are advisors to Coinshift. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Miguel de Vega is the Chief Scientific Officer at Nillion.

In this episode, we discuss the potential for what's known as "humanity's first blind computer" and its role to play alongside AI and crypto. Miguel unpacks how Nillion addresses the challenges of handling high value data, by leveraging privacy enhancing technologies (PETs) to enable users to securely store data on a peer-to-peer network, and allow for computations to be executed on the masked data, without the traditional need to decrypt data ahead of computation. We review a variety of Web3 and Web2 use cases unlocked by Nillion for massive emerging markets such as decentralized AI, plus why Nillion will soon launch its own tokenized incentives.

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🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED

🐐 GOAT NETWORK | A BITCOIN L2 TO EARN WITH BTC & DOGE

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
4:11 - Background
6:31 - What is humanity’s first blind computer?
8:50 - Web3 use cases
11:03 - Web2 use cases
14:46 - How Nillion fixes issues like the Lastpass hack
17:33 - How will Nillion marry different privacy-enhancing tech?
21:52 - Mantle ad
22:30 - Target users for Nillion
24:19 - What tokenized incentives drive Nillion network?
26:48 - How do you bootstrap Nillion?
28:48 - Moonwell and GOAT Network ad
29:56 - How Nillion works with decentralized AI
33:33 - Nillion Mainnet coming + partners
36:54 - Web2 partners and competitors
40:34 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Nillion website: https://nillion.com/
► Nillion on X/Twitter: https://x.com/nillionnetwork
► Miguel on X/Twitter: https://x.com/miguel_de_vega

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad was an angel in Nillion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Tycho Onnasch is a contributor to Stacks, Stacking DAO, and Zest Protocol.

In this episode, we catch up on the state of DeFi on Bitcoin L2 Stacks. Speaking with the top DeFi protocol on Stacks, we learn how Stacking DAO is unlocking new yield opportunities, how stSTX will deliver liquid stacking rewards in sBTC, and why Stacks TVL is more than ready to grow.

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► Edge Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

🐐 GOAT NETWORK | A BITCOIN L2 TO EARN WITH BTC & DOGE

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
0:51 - What is Stacks?
2:30 - Difference between a Bitcoin sidechain vs L2
4:42 - How performant is Stacks now?
6:51 - Sponsor pre-roll
9:16 - What is Stacking DAO?
10:49 - Stacking STX manually vs stSTX LST
12:16 - Stacking DAO points program
14:36 - Best stSTX yields
16:17 - stSTX value accrual + new sBTC yield
19:10 - Mantle and GOAT Network mid-roll
20:20 - Will Stacks Foundation begin bootstrapping new TVL?
21:50 - Satoshi AI agent on Stacks
23:30 - Tycho’s favorite DeFi yields on Stacks
24:49 - Are stablecoin yields elevated on Stacks due to Ethena?
26:06 - Closing + What will grow Stacks TVL to $1B?
29:15 - When will stSTX support yield in sBTC?

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Stacks website: https://stacks.co/

► Stacking DAO website: https://www.stackingdao.com/
► Stacking DAO on X/Twitter: https://x.com/StackingDAO
► Tycho on X/Twitter: https://x.com/TychoOnnasch

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad was an angel investor in Stacking DAO. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Jai Prasad is the CoFounder of DEFINITIVE.

In this episode, we review our favorite app to trade onchain, an institutional-grade trading platform built for DeFi by the team who built products for Coinbase customers such as Michael Saylor, BlackRock, and Tesla. Thanks to a proprietary off-chain engine and non-custodial smart contracts, DEFINITIVE empowers users like us with unparalleled trade execution, advanced order types onchain, and gasless trading on a chain-abstracted app. We learn why DEFINITIVE is being used by the biggest crypto institutional traders, hedge funds, whales, and everyday DeFi power-users like ourselves.

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► Edge Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz
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🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

🐐 GOAT NETWORK | A BITCOIN L2 TO EARN WITH BTC & DOGE

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
4:21 - Jai’s background
9:19 - What problems DEFINITIVE addresses?
11:01 - What value does DEFINITIVE offer us as traders onchain?
15:15 - What makes DEFINITIVE so special?
22:04 - Nomatic and DeFi Dad’s feedback trading on DEFINITIVE
26:28 - Why use a TWAP order?
27:16 - Mantle mid-roll
27:55 - How will DEFINITIVE support Hyperliquid?
30:17 - Who uses DEFINITIVE?
35:28 - Moonwell & GOAT Network mid-roll
36:35 - Best execution for trades onchain
38:20 - 9-figure monthly trade volume
39:11 - Support for AI agents trading coming
40:53 - Who does DEFINITIVE compete with?
43:15 - EDGE points program and future DEFINITIVE token
45:10 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► DEFINITIVE website (referral): https://app.definitive.fi/r/DEFIDAD
► DEFINITIVE on X/Twitter: https://x.com/definitivefi
► Jai on X/Twitter: https://x.com/jai_prasad17

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are angels in DEFINITIVE. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

kmets is a Core Contributor to f(x) Protocol.

In this episode, we dive into f(x) Protocol’s V2 launch offering 10X non-liquidatable leverage with no funding fees, high USD-based yields, and a seamless trading experience on blue-chip assets. Discover how V2 improves leverage consistency, supports key collateral types, and what’s next for the protocol, including BTC leverage and L2 expansion.

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🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE

🐐 GOAT NETWORK | A BITCOIN L2 TO EARN WITH BTC & DOGE

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
1:28 - What is f(x) protocol?
8:28 - How to open a position and how it works in V2?
12:55 - Sponsor break
15:20 - Is our leverage in V2 more consistent than in V1?
17:04 - Collateral types accepted for opening V2 positions
19:47 - How does f(x) offer no funding fees or liquidations for traders?
22:58 - f(x) Stability Pool yield
26:10 - Migrating phase + when will V2 be open to new positions?
28:32 - Can a choppy market degrade your leveraged exposure in V2?
30:20 - Sponsor break
31:30 - When will f(x) move to an L2?
32:55 - Thoughts on future forks of f(x) V2
38:17 - When will f(x) V2 leverage support BTC?
39:52 - V2 value accrual for FXN
42:50 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► f(x) Protocol website: https://fx.aladdin.club/
► f(x) Protocol on X/Twitter: https://x.com/protocol_fx
► kmets on X/Twitter: https://x.com/kmets_

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If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/

All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.