There’s a good chance that we might not have one of the most recognizable names in faith journalism if he would have listened to his detractors.

Billy Hallowell is one of the country’s premier reporters, focusing on issues of faith, politics, and culture. He’s interviewed everyone from the president to leading atheists. He’s also the author of four books. But when he was trying to decide what to do with his life and expressed an interest in journalism, more than one person told him, “that was stupid.”

Luckily for us, Billy didn’t listen.

In Episode 10 of “That Was Stupid,” Billy joins to talk about

• His wild journey to the top, including taking a 40% pay cut

• How he dealt with the doubters

• His favorite story

• Listening to God’s voice

• How someone you might recognize actually helped turbo his career

• The time he “manifested a demon”

• And more!

You’ve got to hear these stories!

And if you’re interested, you can read Billy’s work at Faithwire or on his Substack.

If you’d like to watch the video version of the podcast, it’s available to paid supporters here.

Did you hear about the Christian musician who became a #1 realtor?

“That Was Stupid” is back, and our first guest of the season is a former Christian musician who gave up music to be a… real estate whiz? Yup!

Logan Walter spent all his life in music. He recorded albums, he toured, and he made it his life. It’s what he was known for and it’s what he did. It even was the “family business,” so to speak.

So when he decided after the pandemic to completely pivot and become a realtor, a lot of people said, “that was stupid.” But interestingly, Logan’s time on stage and connecting with people set him up for success. But not just success, major success. Within a short time of getting into real estate, he became the #1 agent in his company in the nation and even won "rookie of the year" nationally.

He joins “That Was Stupid” to talk about his pivot, how he’s found success, his love for the band Steely Dan, and offers advice for others looking to pivot as well.

If you’d like to watch the video version of the podcast, it’s available to paid supporters at readdearjon.com. As always like, RATE, and share!

Read more about Logan and use him as your agent in the North Texas / DFW area by visiting https://loganwalter.com.

Season 1 was a blast. We interviewed Miss America about leaving America; we talked to an ESPN star who gave it all up to work for a non-profit; and we even talked to a successful businessman who drank sewage in order to bring the world clean water.

We took a break last May to work on some other things; most importantly I took a break to work on myself. You’ll actually be getting that story very, very soon. But now we’re back!

For Season 2, we have some great guests lined up, including a worship pastor who left ministry to become one of the top realtors in Texas, the story of the top faith journalist in the country, and more.

Join us!