Shhhhhh The Adults Are Talking

By: Robert Pilkington + Roxanne Sukhan
  • Summary

  • The world isn't bad it just smells funny.

    Join Robert and Roxanne for their Saturday night conversations about culture, politics, and human nature.

    Robert Pilkington + Roxanne Sukhan 2024
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Episodes
  • A Couple of Kids at the Record Store
    Jun 11 2024

    Summary :: In this episode our conversation revolves around our visit to the record store and the vinyl records haul we got. We discuss our experience at the store, the albums we found, and our thoughts on the music. Our conversation touches on topics such as nostalgia, the appeal of vinyl records, and the process of buying records in the past. Overall, it is a lighthearted and enjoyable discussion about their love for music and vinyl records. In this part of the conversation, Bad Hijabi and Robert discuss our unexpected finds at a record store and their diverse taste in music. We talk about the different genres we enjoy and the thrill of discovering old records. We also mention their desire to find specific albums, such as X-Ray Specs and John Coltrane's Blue Train. The conversation takes a brief detour as we discuss Mick Jagger's heart surgery. In this part of the conversation, we discuss the topic of heart care and the connection between music and social media. They also touch on the controversial issue of IDF soldiers burning Qurans. Our conversation then shifts to the TV show Doctor Who and the themes of dehumanization and propaganda. We emphasize the importance of understanding and not essentialising people based on labels. We also express our concerns about the influence of algorithms and echo chambers on our digital lives. Overall, we express their love for vinyl records and the joy of exploring different musical styles.

    Takeaways

    • Visiting a record store can be a nostalgic and enjoyable experience
    • Vinyl records have a unique appeal and sound quality
    • The condition and price of records can vary
    • Album covers and artwork can influence purchasing decisions
    • Music can evoke memories and emotions Exploring record stores can lead to unexpected and exciting finds
    • Having a diverse taste in music allows for a wide range of listening experiences
    • Certain albums, like X-Ray Specs and John Coltrane's Blue Train, are highly sought after by collectors
    • Mick Jagger underwent a minimally invasive heart surgery and was able to resume his musical activities quickly
    • Vinyl records offer a unique and enjoyable listening experience Heart care and the connection between music and social media are discussed.
    • The hosts express their concerns about IDF soldiers burning Qurans and the influence of algorithms on social media.
    • The TV show Doctor Who is mentioned, highlighting the themes of dehumanization and propaganda.
    • The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding and not essentializing people based on labels.
    • "We went to the record store and it's like, because it's been there a while and it's vintage and it's old and stuff."
    • "We have to buy this."
    • "We listen to most of the Dwayne Eddy, like some of the cool stuff, but some stuff is very skippy."
    • "We just, we weren't expecting that. We were like, oh, hey, we'll buy one record. Walk out of the fucking record, start with like 11."
    • "I think this is my favourite Roy Auburn album I've ever heard."
    • "Mean Little Mama. Problem Child. These are kick-ass songs."
    • "I mean, you know, he's not going to live forever, but you know, it's kind of like you got a bit of a lease on life, right?"
    • "What do you think about IDF soldiers throwing Korans into the fire? What do you think about that?"
    • "I haven't been on, for the sake of my psychological well-being, I haven't really been on Telegram lately because sometimes you can find a lot of that shit on Telegram."
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    51 mins
  • Oh Bondage Up Yours, I Am A Cliché
    May 22 2024

    In this episode we discusses the life and legacy of punk musician Marion Joan Elliott-Said also know as Poly Styrene. Our conversation touches on themes of identity, adolescence, and the complexities of mother-daughter relationships. It explores the impact of consumerism and the music industry on artists and the importance of attachment and privilege in upbringing. We highlight Poly Styrene's unique image and her role in opening doors for marginalized artists. From her classical training in opera and her ability to sing to her unique devotion to the DIY ethic, our conversation covers various topics related to the punk style: the influence of drugs in the punk scene, the concept of fame and success, the importance of strong attachments in childhood, and the challenges of record collecting. We touched on broader issues such as commodification, beauty standards, and the impact of technology on fame and consumption. Finally we briefly talk about the reality that Poly Styrene excelled as a artist and failed as a mother making the legacy she left her daughter, Celeste Bell, a complex one.

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    59 mins
  • Nosferatu and Other Weird Sh1t In Canada
    Mar 24 2024

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    Summary

    In this episode [S1E5] of SHHHH The Adults Are Talking, Robert and I discuss recent incidents of anti-Semitism in Canada.

    We start by discussing an anti-Semitic cartoon published by a Montreal newspaper. We explore the history of anti-Semitic imagery in vampire lore. The conversation then shifts to parliamentary votes in Canada that give symbolic victory to Hamas. We express frustration with the Canadian government's inability to condemn anti-Semitism. We discuss the cancellation of a Jewish film festival in Hamilton due to security concerns.

    Our conversation wanders various topics including the controversy over a film at a film festival, the cancellation of a Jewish film, new rules for kosher slaughter, comparison to halal slaughter, the ban on kosher meat, criticism of the government and sexual education, the rise in anti-Semitic crimes, a fishing protest in New Brunswick, corruption in government contracts, the desire for a new election, and confusion over Nosferatu and Netanyahu.

    We rant a bit.

    We talk about Amy Hamm, who faced investigation for expressing her views, the impact of cancel culture on professionals, we mention the case of Jordan Peterson, the connection between wokeism and unhappiness, and the need for checks and balances in the political system.

    Takeaways

    1. Anti-Semitism continues to be a problem in Canada, as evidenced by recent incidents.

    2. The use of anti-Semitic imagery in vampire lore has a long history and perpetuates harmful stereotypes.

    3. The Canadian government's response to anti-Semitism is inadequate and lacks condemnation.

    4. The cancellation of a Jewish film festival highlights ongoing security concerns for the Jewish community.

    5. Cancel culture can have severe consequences for professionals, impacting their livelihoods and personal lives.

    6. Wokeism is seen as a mental illness characterized by extreme positions, diminished empathy, and an inability to admit when one is wrong.

    7. The Conservative Party in Canada has undergone a shift in identity, with some perceiving it as a rejection of traditional Laurentian-Tory values.

    8. The need for checks and balances in the political system is emphasized, particularly in light of recent events.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Anti-Semitic Cartoon

    03:03 The Anti-Semitic History of Vampires

    05:54 Parliamentary Votes and Symbolic Victory for Hamas

    12:03 Inability to Condemn Anti-Semitism

    16:03 Cancellation of Jewish Film Festival

    27:01 Cancellation of Jewish Film

    29:01 New Rules for Kosher Slaughter

    31:06 Comparison to Halal Slaughter

    32:42 Anti-Semitism and Kosher Meat Ban

    35:25 Criticism of Government and Sexual Education

    37:18 Rise in Anti-Semitic Crimes

    38:04 Fishing Protest in New Brunswick

    40:08 Corruption in Government Contracts

    44:08 Desire for New Election

    46:12 Lack of Confidence in Current Government

    48:20 Confusion over Nosferatu and Netanyahu

    49:28 Relief that Canada is not like America

    50:08 Nurse Amy's Case

    51:28 Targeted Complaints

    52:24 Legal Support

    53:30 Cancel Culture

    54:01 Consequences of Speech

    56:30 Jordan Peterson's Case

    57:22 Ethical Obligations

    58:14 New Problems, Old Solutions

    59:54 Unhappiness and Wokeness

    01:00:45 Wokeism as a Mental Illness

    01:03:19 Wokeism vs. Ideology

    01:05:09 Conservative Party Identity

    01:06:50 Regional Divisions

    01:09:07 Motion on Recognizing Palestine

    01:11:15 Potential Non-Confidence Vote

    01:13:39 NDP's Unpopular Policies

    01:15:38 Investigation into Hamas

    01:19:44 Need for Checks and Balances

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    1 hr and 15 mins

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