In this episode, Jim sits down with author and pastor Irwyn Ince to discuss race, racism, and the gospel's power to bring healing and unity. Jim and Irwyn explore the reasons for our racial and ethnic divisions and how the gospel challenges and invites us to see every person as an image-bearer of God. As Irwyn shares his journey, he offers practical guidance on fostering gospel-centered conversations about race and turning to the triune God–our Hope for wholeness and reconciliation. Tune in for an episode filled with wisdom, grace, and a vision for a more unified church transformed by God’s astounding grace.

In this episode, they discuss…

• Confronting racism in media and church segregation (10:44)
• Pursuing community through gospel-driven love and humility (15:07)
• Exploring racial identity and historical contexts in America (28:28)
• The ever-expanding table of grace (39:33)

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Referenced in this episode:

• 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺: 𝘜𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘺, 𝘋𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘢𝘵 𝘐𝘵'𝘴 𝘉𝘦𝘴𝘵 by Irwyn Ince
• 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘞𝘦𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘎𝘭𝘰𝘳𝘺 by C.S. Lewis
• 𝘊𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘦: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘖𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘖𝘶𝘳 𝘋𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 by Isabel Wilkerson
• 𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘦 𝘈𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘢 𝘏𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘭𝘦: 𝘗𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘺 𝘍𝘢𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯 𝘈 𝘞𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘺𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘞𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥 by Irwyn Ince
• Bible references: Mark 8:22-26, Colossians 3:11-14

Credits:

Our guest for this episode was Serge board member Rev. Dr. Irwyn Ince, who also serves as Coordinator of Mission to North America. He is the author of two books, The Beautiful Community and Hope Ain’t a Hustle. This episode was hosted by Jim Lovelady. Production by Evan Mader, Anna Madsen, and Grace Chang. Music by Tommy L.

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