How did New England go from a Puritan haven to a post-Christian landscape littered with empty churches? In this episode of Pastor Pastor, Wes takes us on a captivating journey through the rise and fall of the church in New England, through the so-called Enlightenment and the Great Awakenings, and onto the mission field that is New England today. Learn what is needed to set the table for revival, how NETS fits in, and why Wes holds great hope for another marvelous work of God's Spirit in New England.

In Episode 12 of "Pastor Pastor," we pick up our conversation with Wes and Sue with their seminary years. With her characteristic warmth and candor, Sue offers a behind-the-scenes look at life as Wes's faithful ministry partner throughout seminary, a church plant, and the conception of NETS. You'll discover the unique role of a pastor's wife (it might surprise you!), the particular challenges of ministry in New England, and how Sue's faith, courage, and clarity have shaped their journey and helped to forge them as an effective couple for the sake of Christ's kingdom.

In Episode 11 of "Pastor Pastor," we're joined by Wes's wife, Sue, for a candid conversation about the people and events that shaped her journey to faith, the love story that brought the couple together, and the affection and convictions that have forged their partnership in ministry and in life. Sue is Lead Women's Mentor for NETS, and her practical wisdom, sharp strategic mind, and ability to embrace life as it comes shine through as we talk. Join us for an episode packed with insight, inspiration, and plenty of laughter!