• #ComplianceCapers Episode 12 - BONUS
    Oct 2 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, BA, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICDCM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 4 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 13th Season starts up and Episode 5 features a BONUS episode featuring #ComplianceCapers with Betty Hovey. It debuted on March 22, 2024 with a lively discussion on a closed OIG Work Plan report on pain management services.

    March 2024 episodes on the OIG Work Plan were specially curated in advance and featured on Sonal's LinkedIn Live Events and Sonal's YouTube Channel.

    Sonal's LinkedIn Live event: https://www.linkedin.com/events/compliancecapers-episode12-oigw7175506367422562304/theater/

    Sonal's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-t9mhjHFk&list=PLD5lAnNOMPGYjPJuU2nAq4ootNIdgGgwW&index=14&t=2s

    Thanks to HCPro®:

    Website:⁠ ⁠⁠https://hcpro.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

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    36 mins
  • Newsworthy Month of Fraud, Waste, and Abuse, Trusty Tip on Billing Influenza Vaccines, and Benjamin Franklin's Spark
    Sep 25 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICD-10-CM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 13th Season* starts up and Episode 4 features a Newsworthy updates on the month's fraud, waste, and abuse cases. (*LOL I said Season 3 on air)

    Sonal's Trusty Tip and compliance recommendations focus on billing for influenza (or flu) vaccines.

    Spark inspires us all to reflect on insight and wisdom based on the inspirational words of Benjamin Franklin.

    Thanks to HCPro®:

    Website:⁠ https://hcpro.com/

    ⁠⁠Harvest September savings and your professional success with educational Boot Camps at: ⁠⁠https://hcmarketplace.com/product-type/boot-camps⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Find Sonal on LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

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    26 mins
  • Newsworthy CPT® 2025 Code Set, Trusty Tip on SMRC, and Edmund Burke's Spark
    Sep 18 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICD-10-CM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 13th Season starts up and Episode 3 features a Newsworthy update on the new 2025 CPT® code set.

    Sonal's Trusty Tip and compliance recommendations on the Supplemental Medical Review Contractor (SMRC).

    Spark inspires us all to reflect on insight and wisdom based on the inspirational words of Edmund Burke.

    Thanks to HCPro®:

    Website:⁠ https://hcpro.com/

    ⁠⁠Harvest September savings and your professional success with educational Boot Camps at: ⁠https://hcmarketplace.com/product-type/boot-camps ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Paint The Medical Picture Podcast now on:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6hcJAHHrqNLo9UmKtqRP3X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast/id1530442177⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Find Paint The Medical Picture Podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNUxmYdIU_U8I5hP91Kk7A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Find Sonal on LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And checkout the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://paintthemedicalpicturepodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

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    18 mins
  • Newsworthy OIG Work Plan for August 2024, Trusty Tip on FAQ for G2211, and Buddha's Spark
    Sep 11 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICD-10-CM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 13th Season starts up and Episode 2 features a Newsworthy update on the OIG Work Plan for August 2024.

    Sonal's Trusty Tip and compliance recommendations focus on a new FAQ for G2211.

    Spark inspires us all to reflect on insight and wisdom based on the inspirational words of Buddha.

    Thanks to Advanced Coding Services:

    Website:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advancedcodingservices.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Paint The Medical Picture Podcast now on:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6hcJAHHrqNLo9UmKtqRP3X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast/id1530442177⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Find Paint The Medical Picture Podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNUxmYdIU_U8I5hP91Kk7A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Find Sonal on LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And checkout the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://paintthemedicalpicturepodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

    --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sonal-patel5/support
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    26 mins
  • #ComplianceCapers Episode 11 - BONUS
    Sep 4 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, BA, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICDCM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 13th Season starts up and Episode 1 features a BONUS episode featuring #ComplianceCapers with Betty Hovey. It debuted on March 15, 2024 with a lively discussion on a closed OIG Work Plan report on ophthalmology services.

    March 2024 episodes on the OIG Work Plan were specially curated in advance and featured on Sonal's LinkedIn Live Events and Sonal's YouTube Channel.

    Sonal's LinkedIn Live event: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/events/compliancecapers-episode11-oigw7172969445152206848/theater/

    Sonal's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjFQxYHYcKM&list=PLD5lAnNOMPGYjPJuU2nAq4ootNIdgGgwW&index=15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

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    37 mins
  • Newsworthy Month of Fraud, Waste, and Abuse, Trusty Tip on Chronic Care Management, and Margaret Mead's Spark
    Aug 28 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, BA, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICDCM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 12th Season starts up and Episode 18 features her Newsworthy updates on the month's fraud, waste, and abuse cases.

    Trusty Tip features Sonal's compliance recommendations on new HCPCS G-codes for chronic care management.

    Spark inspires us all to reflect on collaboration based on the inspirational words of Margaret Mead.

    Thanks to Advanced Coding Services:

    Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advancedcodingservices.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Paint The Medical Picture Podcast now on:

    Spotify:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6hcJAHHrqNLo9UmKtqRP3X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast/id1530442177⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Amazon Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/bc6146d7-3d30-4b73-ae7f-d77d6046fe6a/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Find Paint The Medical Picture Podcast on YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNUxmYdIU_U8I5hP91Kk7A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Find Sonal on LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And checkout the website:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://paintthemedicalpicturepodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠


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    25 mins
  • Interview & Trusty Tips with Yesenia Servin - Her Journey
    Aug 21 2024
    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, BA, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICDCM. Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sonal's 12th Season starts up and Episode 17 features her new spotlight series on Newsworthy interviews that are also filled with Trusty Tips. Join Sonal in welcoming back Yesenia Servin and hear her talk about her Journey. Thanks to Advanced Coding Services: Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advancedcodingservices.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find Yesenia Servin on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/yesenia-servin-cpmsm-pesc-9abb1380/⁠⁠ Find YS Credentialing, PLLC: ⁠⁠https://yscredentialing.com/ Paint The Medical Picture Podcast now on:⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6hcJAHHrqNLo9UmKtqRP3X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast/id1530442177⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amazon Music: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/bc6146d7-3d30-4b73-ae7f-d77d6046fe6a/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find Paint The Medical Picture Podcast on YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNUxmYdIU_U8I5hP91Kk7A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find Sonal on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And checkout the website:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://paintthemedicalpicturepodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sonal-patel5/support
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    52 mins
  • Newsworthy OIG Work Plan for July 2024, Trusty Tip on Telehealth Places of Service, and Andrew Carnegie's Spark
    Aug 14 2024

    Welcome to the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast, created and hosted by Sonal Patel, CPMA, CPC, CMC, ICD-10-CM.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a Top 15 Podcast for 3 Years: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blog.feedspot.com/medical_billing_and_coding_podcasts/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    I'd love your continued support of this content-rich, value-add podcast to help you succeed in the business of medicine: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sonal-patel5/support⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Sonal's 12th Season starts up and Episode 16 features a Newsworthy update on the OIG Work Plan for July 2024.

    Sonal's Trusty Tip and compliance recommendations focus on telehealth places of service.

    Spark inspires us all to reflect on collaboration based on the inspirational words of Andrew Carnegie.

    Thanks to Advanced Coding Services:

    Website:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advancedcodingservices.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Paint The Medical Picture Podcast now on:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6hcJAHHrqNLo9UmKtqRP3X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paint-the-medical-picture-podcast/id1530442177⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Find Paint The Medical Picture Podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzNUxmYdIU_U8I5hP91Kk7A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Find Sonal on LinkedIn:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonapate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And checkout the website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://paintthemedicalpicturepodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you'd like to be a sponsor of the Paint The Medical Picture Podcast series, please contact Sonal directly for pricing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PaintTheMedicalPicturePodcast@gmail.com

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    14 mins