I met German Utria in the 5th grade in 1983 or so. Our friendship was forged on music, movies, food, and more. I also based the Gerry character in my films 1985-1986 and Cool Summer on this person who made (and continues to make) an indelible impact on me. In this interview we discuss friend groups, how that shapes who we are when we're younger (and older), going to the mall in the 80s, and burning your hands on pizza. These videos are part of an ongoing video series chronicling the hardcore punk music scene. They are an addendum to the film Orange County Hardcore Scenester. This is a documentary I made that chronicles the 1990s hardcore punk scene. You can watch ORANGE COUNTY HARDCORE SCENESTER here: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/ochs Or, pick up the Orange County Hardcore Scenester DVD here: https://revhq.com/products/evanjacobs-orangecountyhardcorescenester-dvd?_pos=2&_sid=683ac2ce9&_ss=r Subscribe to ANHEDENIA FILMS UNLIMITED and watch every Anhedenia Film as many times as you like for $2 a month: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/afunlimited Watch videos on COOL SUMMER here: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019659/cool-summer #cuba #coolsummer #19851986 #germanutria #anhedeniafilmsondemand #anhedeniafilmsunlimited #anhedeniafilmstv