A concept episode. Can an interesting beer lead you to discover an interesting bit music you otherwise would not have found? What about the other way around?

Former guest Ransom (a musician, author and podcaster) joins me to find out.

This is Brews n Tunes #1 (yep, it worked so well, we're definitely doing it again at some point).

Here's the concept. Ransom picks a bit of music to inspire me. I pick a beer to inspire him. Using his choice of music as a starting point I go on the search for a new beer for us both to try that relates back to it. Ransom does the same, but he's hunting for music somehow related to the beer I chose him.

Go with it. It works, I promise.

And boy, do we end up in some interesting places. Abraham Lincoln, a musician who pretended to attend a university to teach himself music, a brewery in a fake castle... and an absolutely astonishing revelation about San Miguel that I bet you don't know... yet.

Grab a beer - with or without alcohol - give yourself 36 mins, find somewhere comfy and join our fascinating conversation...

Jack Baber is a fellow Cardiff homebrewer and he helps run the long-established and highly regarded Rebel Homebrewers club in Cardiff which I myself am an occasional attendee of (not as much as I'd like, but hey, family diary clashes and all that).

In this episode Jack kindly welcomes me into his incredible bar and brewery set up in his garage. We hear the secrets on how to make such a great set-up, plus the story of how he got started on home brewing and why we both agree that it's an incredibly fun and rewarding hobby that really doesn't take much effort to get started with.

I should warn you, listening to this episode will significantly raise the chances of you going online and buying your first brew kit immediately afterwards... and that's a very good thing!

Did you know that the UK's biggest low and no alcohol brewer is based right here in South Wales?

Drop Bear was formed just 5 years ago by two women in South Wales with a mission to put the craft into low and no alcohol brewing... and their success has been incredible.

The beers are good. That's the starting point. But the business sense, the ambition, the upward trajectory, the commitment to genuine planet-friendly policies... put all these together and it's seriously impressive.

I couldn't wait to meet them and my visit to their new brewery and chat with co-Founder Joelle did not disappoint. So much to take from the episode - brewing geekery, industry analysis, business savvy... and just inspirational stuff.

Check out Drop Bearer yourself at dropbearbeers.com