Mark introduces two topics. Community and legacy

He shares that they skipped last week because of the two hurricanes and tells the listeners that everyone was safe in his family and how the communities came together

Why we can get along and be supportive in times of hardship, yet we are divided in times of peace

Mark says we’re not as divided as the media portray us. Mark says if we all got together, we wouldn’t need the government…and that scares the hell out of the government

Jim says he’s grateful everyone is OK. He compliments Mark on his ability to not show anxiety

Jim speaks about anxiety in general. Common anxiety. Anxiety brings people together

It’s human nature. He asks Mark to read the definition of anxiety

Mark shares a story about his son during the storm and how, without power, he came outside to help

Jim says it’s a perfect example of how anxiety can bring us together

Jim relates to the flywheel - health- mental health. He says the best way to handle anxiety is to have a conversation. Anxiety means you’re not present

Mark relates the community effort and how healing it was

Mark gives his opinion about why he handles anxiety the way he does

Jim says it’s not what happens to us it’s how we respond and then he transitions into legacy

Mark brings up the movie Poseidon Adventure and Gene Hackman - Great legacy story

Jim says it’ not just hurricanes..the political landscape approaching a presidential election

They acknowledge Asheville NC where Mark’s daughters and girlfriend daughter lives (everyone is ok)

Mark says the reason the current “regime” is nervous is because what they disasters are showing is that when we all get together…we don’t need the government…and that scares the shit out of the people in power

Jim agrees and brings up taxes - it’s an insurance policy. We pay you and you protect us…and they have not

Jim brings up his hometown near Oakland CA where the government has taken the money and not delivered the services

And we’re supposed to trust the government again?

Mark asks, why is this, why now? We have SO MUCH media. Regardless of political stance. So much noise. Anxiety comes from the noise

Jim shares a high school football story from this past weekend. Pregame pictures:)

Mark says there is only 1 MVP

He shares his frame of reference 1928 to 2024. 7 or 8 presidents. Their opinions have context

Jim says the kids were as interested in their pictures as they were in winning the game

Mark says. What’s important? It’s ass backwards

Jim says the parents don’t know what to do either and CA is passing laws about cell phones in class

Jim says the government can play a role, but another law that schools can’t suspend students anymore. Now way more kids are misbehaving. Also the $900 theft law is still in place

Mark asks how long will this most recent tragedy be remembered in the context of community

Mark transitions into legacy and asks when one should start thinking about legacy

Jim asks that we define legacy and both guys clarify their individual positions on legacy

Jim shares some thoughts about his own current anxiety about an upcoming speech he’s to give tomorrow and his most recent provisional patent recently submitted in the context of legacy and anxiety

Mark thinks having a legacy is a form of personal accountability

Mark shares his Little League All Star anxiety and his dad’s reply

Jim shares a Sylvester Stallone story

Jim says there is such a thing as healthy anxiety

Jim asks Mark what he would say to his 30 year old self

Mark says it’s difficult at 30 to think about being 60. Legacy is what the people say about you when you’re gone. Mark wishes Jim good luck with his speech