Bring some tissues to this episode because we are talking about not only us getting older but also our kids.

We candidly share our experiences of growing older while still relating to a client base primarily entrenched in the childbearing years. We reflect on how our experiences differ profoundly from those of our clients and how that fosters a need for empathy, understanding, and adaptation in our approach.

We also dive into the nostalgia of reflecting on previous parenting stages and discuss the sentimental emotions that arise as our children transition into adulthood. Our goal is for you to embrace the joys and challenges of parenting at every stage.

“Even though we're getting older, there are still so many amazing pieces of being a lactation consultant, and it helps us stay connected to our little ones when they were little. It really is the weirdest job, like find me a job that's weirder.”

In this episode, we will cover:

• The joy of working with babies and how it reminds us of when our children were little (6:43)
• Learning from your experiences to help your clients (10:08)
• The importance of empathy (16:42)
• Balancing nostalgia and reality (19:22)

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

If you like what you heard today, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Emily Maize
• Tiffany Gillies
• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Sara Huddleston
• Sara Huddleston
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
• Melanie Tarr
• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
• Margot Hodes
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
• Zee Ifan
• Maria o Sullivan

We’re back! Did you miss us?

We are reconnecting after a summer break where Leah was recovering from major back surgery, a significant event that shifted not just her physical circumstances but profoundly affected her approach to both life and business.

Also, Annie reveals her previous mindset regarding health issues and the unrealistic standards she sets for herself, which led to detrimental consequences. The painful truth is that, too often, we delay seeking medical attention until our conditions require urgent action.

“It’s so hard taking care of ourselves.”

In this episode, we will cover:

• Reflections on recovery (2:24)
• Speaking up for yourself in healthcare situations (5:40)
• Taking time off as a business owner (12:29)
• What’s coming up for Lactation Business Coaching (16:07)

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

If you like what you heard today, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Emily Maize
• Tiffany Gillies
• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Sara Huddleston
• Sara Huddleston
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
• Melanie Tarr
• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
• Margot Hodes
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
• Zee Ifan
• Maria o Sullivan

Each month, Annie and I take a deeper dive into topics and information with an expert to give us more insights on things that we might be incorporating in our clinical practice as well as entrepreneurs and business owners. We're bringing you this snippet today to give you a taste of what these deeper dives are all about.

This month, we talked with Allison Alexander, LPN IBCLC about the contentious debate surrounding tongue tie. We explore the recent uproar ignited by a clinical report from the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), which has set the lactation community abuzz. Concerned about the implications of these headlines on patient care, Allison and her partner decided to respond proactively. They crafted a letter addressed to local pediatricians, aiming to clarify their stance on the role of lactation consultants in the holistic care of breastfeeding families. The letter encapsulates their commitment to collaboration and outlines their approach to managing oral restrictions.

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

If you like what you heard today, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Emily Maize
• Tiffany Gillies
• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Sara Huddleston
• Sara Huddleston
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
• Melanie Tarr
• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
• Margot Hodes
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
• Zee Ifan
• Maria o Sullivan