Joel Michael Herbert is an artist, coach, speaker, and musician. Joel opens up about his profound and often challenging journey from growing up in a conservative religious environment to becoming a worship pastor, and eventually deconstructing his faith. Through personal stories and key influences like Brennan Manning, Donald Miller, and Rachel Held Evans, Joel shares how he navigated through doubt, academic scrutiny, and a shifting theological landscape. Together, we discuss the impact of the 2016 election, the ongoing quest for truth, and the importance of holding beliefs loosely. The conversation underscores the complexities of faith, growth, and transformation, offering you a raw and genuine exploration of spiritual evolution.

To learn more about Joel's band, The World in Lights, click here!

Joel is all over social media, too! You can search for Joel Michael Herbert on most platforms.

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Honoring the Journey is hosted, produced and edited by Leslie Nease and the artwork for the show is also created by Leslie Nease.

Interested in working with Leslie as your Life/Faith Transitions Coach? Check out her website and learn more about what she offers! https://www.leslieneasecoaching.com

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Shane Larsen grew up in the Latter Day Saints faith, but after a faith crisis, he began using critical thinking, asking the tough questions and found himself deconstructing his faith. Now, he wants others who leave the comfort and familiarity of their faith tradition to know that they are not alone. He has a TikTok account called "Shane Deconstructs" where he talks very openly about his faith shift, sometimes in funny ways and sometimes in ways that make one think a little deeper about the things they've been told are true. He shares his journey with openness, vulnerability and a lot of heart.

Shane can be found on TikTok at this link!

The podcast Shane talked about, Marriage on a Tightrope, can be found here!

The book Shane talked about that made his faith shift begin is called A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger. This is more of a business book, just fyi. But here are a few more books Shane recommends if you want to improve critical thinking or if you are deconstructing Mormonism:

The Magic of Reality by Richard Dawkins

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari

The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan

The CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts

No Man Knows My History: the Life of Joseph Smith by Fawn Brodie

An Insider's View of Mormon Origins by Grant Palmer

Honoring the Journey is hosted, produced and edited by Leslie Nease and the artwork for the show is also created by Leslie Nease.

Interested in working with Leslie as your Life/Faith Transitions Coach? Check out her website and learn more about what she offers! https://www.leslieneasecoaching.com

If you'd like to be a part of the Honoring the Journey Team as a Patreon Supporter, please check it out at this link!

If you are looking for community as you deconstruct or just a place to go and enjoy the company of people who are seekers, learners and who are looking to connect with the Divine without religious baggage, please join the Private Facebook Community! Leslie is very passionate about connection and community, so if that sounds like you, please come join us!

Jay's church, Revolution Gathering, can be found on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube and X(Twitter).

You can pick up any of Jay's books on Amazon! Here is a link to do that.

Jay's mom, Tammy Faye Bakker, wrote a book he talks about in the interview that I think you should pick up, too! Here is the link for the book, I Gotta Be Me.

You can also find Jay's writings on Patheos.

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Honoring the Journey is hosted, produced and edited by Leslie Nease and the artwork for the show is also created by Leslie Nease.

Interested in working with Leslie as your Life/Faith Transitions Coach? Check out her website and learn more about what she offers! https://www.leslieneasecoaching.com

If you'd like to be a part of the Honoring the Journey Team as a Patreon Supporter, please check it out at this link!

If you are looking for community as you deconstruct or just a place to go and enjoy the company of people who are seekers, learners and who are looking to connect with the Divine without religious baggage, please join the Private Facebook Community! Leslie is very passionate about connection and community, so if that sounds like you, please come join us!