“Tell ya the truth, I don't think this is a brains kind of operation.”

Will Potter, author of *Green is the New Red* and one of the best-known observers and analysts of the way the state uses contrived charges of "terrorism" to attack environmental activists, joined me for a great discussion about the recent North Dakota court case where Energy Transfer Partners sued Greenpeace and won a huge settlement. We talked at length about the ways in which the oil companies and the state have criminalized free speech and allowed the oligarchs to intimidate and destroy activist groups.

We also discussed the current repression--the attacks on migrants, students, anti-Tesla activists, etc--and the new level of risks we're facing.

bio//

Will Potter is a thought leader and award-winning investigative journalist and author whose work has focused on social justice movements and attacks on civil rights post-9/11. He has been invited to speak about human rights and political repression before governmental bodies including the U.S. Congress, the Australian Parliament, and the Council of Europe.

He was the first investigative journalist to be named a TED Senior Fellow, and his TED talks on anti-protest laws and secret prisons have been viewed nearly 10 million times.

His book, Green Is the New Red: An Insider's Account of a Social Movement Under Siege, exposed the targeting of nonviolent protest groups by the FBI and was awarded a Kirkus Star for "remarkable merit." Will was awarded the prestigious Knight-Wallace Fellowship in Law Reporting, and is the inaugural civil rights fellow and distinguished journalist-in-residence at the University of Denver Sturm College of Law.

His new book, Little Red Barns: Hiding the truth from farm to fable, is now available for pre-order

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Outro- "Green and Red Blues" by Moody

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+ Little Red Barns: Hiding the Truth, from Farm to Fable (https://bit.ly/40HiYRq)

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This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). Edited by Jack.

Strategic Litigation on Public Participation, or SLAPPs, is an oft-used tactics by power holders against activists, campaigners, journalists and ordinary citizens seeking to stop destructive corporate practices on people and planet. There are a number of high profile SLAPP suits in the courts now.

In our latest, we talk with Evan Mascagni with the Public Participation Project about the history and use of SLAPP suits.

Bio//
Evan Mascagni is the Policy Director of the Public Participation Project, a nonprofit dedicated to combating Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation (SLAPPs) through state and federal anti-SLAPP legislation. A former attorney turned documentary filmmaker and First Amendment rights advocate, Evan is committed to defending the free speech rights of filmmakers, journalists, and activists nationwide.

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Outro- "Lawyers, Guns and Money" by Los Alvarez Del Norte Links//+ Evan's website: https://www.evanmascagni.com/+Public Participation Project: https://anti-slapp.org/+ Protect the Protest: https://www.protecttheprotest.org/Follow Green and Red// +G&R Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast⁠⁠⁠ +Our rad website: ⁠⁠⁠https://greenandredpodcast.org/⁠⁠⁠ + Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/vgKnY3sd)+Follow us on Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/podcastgreenred.bsky.social)Support the Green and Red Podcast// +Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast +Or make a one time donation here: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/DonateGandR⁠⁠⁠ Our Networks// +We're part of the Labor Podcast Network: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.laborradionetwork.org/⁠⁠ +We're part of the Anti-Capitalist Podcast Network: linktr.ee/anticapitalistpodcastnetwork +Listen to us on WAMF (90.3 FM) in New Orleans (https://wamf.org/) This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). Edited by Isaac.