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Frank and Stan Chats

By: Frank Norris and Stan Johnson
  • Summary

  • Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was the CEO of the Coop Academies Trust for 6 years. Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West. Prior to Covid-19, the two gents would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that. On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store it they realised that some followers began to appear. Now, with nearly 180 episodes and having chatted to Professors, CEOs, journalists, teachers, former HMI, education thinkers and Frank's Key Stage 1 leading daughter they have a loyal following and a rapidly increasing number of viewers. The reach of the Frank and Stan Chat stretches from Bogota to Ottawa to Greece and their first Live Edition was recorded in front of nearly 200 Headteachers in York. The Chats are not undertaken to attract followers or for financial reward (nothing is received and nothing will be received). It is a way of airing views on education matters between two professional friends with a focus on leadership. We are honoured to be invited to host the weekly chats on the Leader-connect website www.leader-connect.co.uk. The chats helped the gents get through the pandemic and they are delighted that they have been enjoyed by others and appear to have helped in developing leadership thought and actions. If you fancy being a guest then just reach out. We never post a video unless the guest is comfortable with it. So, it is a relatively risk-free environment. Thank you. Frank and Stan

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Episodes
  • Frank and Stan Chat No. 193
    Jul 5 2024
    A momentous night followed by a Frank and Stan Chat. What more does education need? The two gents chat about their views on the past 14 years, what might happen in the next 100 days and what they hope for in the future. It's just a gentle glide through a range of issues. For those who have been up half the night and had to teach today, it might be just what you want. We hope so!

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    35 mins
  • Frank and Stan Chat SPOTLIGHT No. 7
    Jul 3 2024
    Ever wondered what it felt like to be a long-established tutoring provider during the pandemic? Ever wondered why existing providers were not included in the initial list of 33 national providers for the National Tutoring Programme but new providers were? Ever considered why the Randstad contract ended so quickly? How did tutoring programmes survive and what are they doing now? This special SPOTLIGHT focuses on all of these issues and more with Anne Morris, CEO and founder of Yipiyap. There's positive and negative sides to the story but the strength of the relationship between the tutoring provider and the school is central to the success of the programme. Success depends on a mixture of tutoring and supporting the individual student's wider needs. It is so much more than just academic success. It appears the government lost sight of this during the pandemic. Watch/Listen here to discover the ups and downs of the National Tutoring Programme.

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    35 mins
  • Frank and Stan Chat No. 192
    Jun 28 2024
    This week Stan returns from his two week break and we are joined by Education Director, author, keynote speaker and great guest Paul Ainsworth. Paul's most recent publication 'No Silver Bullets' draws on his considerable and varied career involved in school improvement. True to his character he doesn't plug any of his books, although Stan and Frank do. The chat begins with Stan 'reflecting' on hotel mirrors before Paul explains how optimistic he is that so many senior Opposition leaders were educated at comprehensive schools. He feels this will ensure the majority will not be forgotten as education policy changes with a possible new government. He then reflects on his disappointment that an iconic Joy Division song has been chosen for an important video when there were possibly some better choices. Frank ends the chat by discussing how inspection should not be used as a crystal ball. It was fun to take part and we hope you enjoy some of the light hearted moments as well as those that perhaps make you ponder on leadership and education policy.

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    43 mins

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