• EP197 SIEM (Decoupled or Not), and Security Data Lakes: A Google SecOps Perspective

  • Nov 4 2024
  • Length: 30 mins
  • Podcast

EP197 SIEM (Decoupled or Not), and Security Data Lakes: A Google SecOps Perspective

  • Summary

  • Guest:

    • Travis Lanham, Uber Tech Lead (UTL) for Security Operations Engineering, Google Cloud

    Topics:

    • There’s been a ton of discussion in the wake of the three SIEM week about the future of SIEM-like products. We saw a lot of takes on how this augurs the future of disassembled or decoupled SIEMs. Can you explain what these disassembled SIEMs are all about?
    • What are the expected upsides of detaching your SIEM interface and security capabilities from your data backend?
    • Tell us about the early days of SecOps (nee Chronicle) and why we didn’t go with this approach?
    • What are the upsides of a tightly coupled datastore + security experience for a SIEM?
    • Are there more risks or negatives of the decoupled/decentralized approach? Complexity and the need to assemble “at home” are on the list, right?
    • One of the 50 things Google knew to be true back in the day was that product innovation comes from technical innovation, what’s the technical innovation driving decoupled SIEMs?
    • So what about those security data lakes? Any insights?

    Resources:

    • EP139 What is Chronicle? Beyond XDR and into the Next Generation of Security Operations
    • EP190 Unraveling the Security Data Fabric: Need, Benefits, and Futures
    • EP184 One Week SIEM Migration: Fact or Fiction?
    • Hacking Google video series
    • Decoupled SIEM: Brilliant or …. Not :-)
    • UNC5537 Targets Snowflake Customer Instances for Data Theft and Extortion
    • So, Why Did I Join Chronicle Security? (2019)
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