• EP193 Inherited a Cloud? Now What? How Do I Secure It?

  • Oct 7 2024
  • Length: 31 mins
  • Podcast

EP193 Inherited a Cloud? Now What? How Do I Secure It?

  • Summary

  • Guests:

    • Taylor Lehmann, Director at Office of the CISO, Google Cloud
    • Luis Urena, Cloud Security Architect, Google Cloud

    Topics

    • There is a common scenario where security teams are brought in after a cloud environment is already established. From your experience, how does this late involvement typically impact the organization's security posture and what are the immediate risks they face?
    • Upon hearing this, many experts suggest that “burn the environment with fire” or “nuke it from orbit” are the only feasible approaches? What is your take on that suggestion?
    • On the opposite side, what if business demands you don't touch anything but “make it secure” regardless?
    • Could you walk us through some of the first critical steps you do after “inheriting a cloud” and why they are prioritized in this way?
    • Why not just say “add MFA everywhere”? What may or will blow up?
    • We also say “address overly permissive users and roles” and this sounds valuable, but also tricky. How do we go about it?
    • What are the chances that the environment is in fact compromised already? When is Compromise Assessment the right call, it does cost money, right?
    • How do you balance your team’s current priorities when you’ve just adopted an insecure cloud environment. How do you make tradeoffs among your existing stack and this new one?

    Resources:

    • “Confetti cannons or fire extinguishers? Here’s how to secure cloud surprises”
    • EP179 Teamwork Under Stress: Expedition Behavior in Cybersecurity Incident Response
    • IAM Recommender
    • “TM" book by Adam Shostack
    • “Checklist Manifesto” book
    • “Moving shields into position: How you can organize security to boost digital transformation” (with a new paper!)
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