On this second half of our conversation (first half on EP 105) with Gina Phillips, we ask Gina to help us understand the beliefs, practices, and methods of how mind control programming works. Her decades of helping people de-program and get set free by Jesus Christ's power and Gina's counseling speaks of the HOPE that even the most awful traumas can be undone and God can make something beautiful come out of it!

Find Gina and her work online here: www.gina-phillips.com

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