Gabe Hart and Danny Song discuss their experiences growing up in different cities and the impact of race and socioeconomic class on education. They explore the history of Jackson Central Merry High School and the creation of Madison Academic, highlighting the systemic issues that have affected public education in the South. They also touch on the importance of equity and the need for course correction in order to bridge the gaps in educational opportunities. Danny shares his journey from majoring in journalism to becoming an educator, emphasizing the power of language and the role of faith in his life. In this part of the conversation, Danny discusses his personal connection to religion and language, his journey into journalism and social justice issues, and his decision to pursue a career in urban education. He highlights the importance of education as a civil rights and social justice issue, particularly in urban areas. Danny also shares his experiences as a classroom teacher in Memphis, including the challenges of language barriers, poverty, and trauma. He emphasizes the need for consistency, family engagement, and a holistic approach to measuring success in education. The conversation explores the challenges and tensions in the education system, particularly in Tennessee. The speakers discuss the tension between providing students with a meaningful education and meeting the demands of standardized testing and accountability. They also touch on the importance of teacher autonomy, parent engagement, and the need for a more sustainable and respectful approach to teaching. The conversation highlights the disconnect between policymakers and educators, emphasizing the importance of listening to teachers' experiences and addressing their concerns. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the challenges of public education in Tennessee, including the lack of belief in teachers' stories and the need for systemic change.