Eryn and L'Shawn interview Dr. Katie from Autism Neurodiverse Education Resource in Denver (NERD). She discusses her business, which provides learning accommodations and support for individuals with neurodevelopmental differences, particularly autism. She distinguishes herself in the educational consulting world by focusing on the admissions process, preparation, placement, and persistence, with a particular emphasis on neurodiverse students. Dr. Katie emphasizes the importance of empowering individuals and families to recognize and express their needs, and shares her personal journey of starting her business and her role in helping families understand the resources available to them. Dr. Katie also discusses her approach to consulting, the importance of college readiness, and the benefits of her services for families and children.

L' Shawn shares her personal experience of losing a close friend, Angus. Eryn offers her knowledge of grief and loss discussing the complexities of grief and loss, including the concept of 'compounded loss' and 'ambiguous loss'. L'Shawn expresses her emotional struggle with the loss of Angus, as well as other losses, and the need to hold on to memories of Angus. The conversation ends with Eryn offering support and discussing the potential for grief to trigger judgment, the importance of self-compassion, and the different emotional pathways of grieving behavior.

L'Shawn and Eryn discuss the issue of meanness, particularly in the context of children and adults, and the importance of responding to it in a healthy and empathetic way. They also emphasize the need for individuals to develop skills to intervene in situations of aggression or mean behavior, and the role of coaches or therapists in promoting these skills. Lastly, they discuss ways to promote a more positive and kind culture in American society, including being mindful of one's actions, practicing positive self-talk, and modeling positive behaviors for future generations.