I'm joined for this episode by Chris Lee, author of The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism, as well as the man behind the podcast and website Outside Write (https://outsidewrite.co.uk/) We talk about the relationship between football and politics, the growth of left-wing fanbases, his favourite football books and more!

The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism by Chris Lee

Severance by Ling Ma

Ultramarine by Mariette Navarro, translated by Cory Stockwell 

Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World by Chris Lee

In Patagonia by Bruce Chatwin

Football Against the Enemy by Simon Kuper

How Football Explains the World by Franklin Foer

Soccer Vs. the State: Tackling Football and Radical Politics by Gabriel Kuhn

The Ball is Round: A Global History of Football by David Goldblatt

Working Class Heroes: The Story of Rayo Vallecano, Madrid's Forgotten Team by Robbie Dunne

Calcio: A History of Italian Football by John Foot

Ultra: The Underworld of Italian Football by Tobias Jones

1312: Among the Ultras: A Journey with the World’s Most Extreme Fans by James Montague

Erbstein: The Triumph and Tragedy of Football's Forgotten Pioneer by Dominic Bliss

A Social History of English Cricket by Derek Birley

A Season With Verona by Tim Parks

The Miracle of Castel di Sangro by Joe McGinniss

Morbo: The Story of Spanish Football by Phil Ball 

Tor! The Story of German Football by Uli Hesse

Angels With Dirty Faces: The Footballing History of Argentina by Jonathan Wilson

Matchdays: The Hidden Story of the Bundesliga by Ronald Reng

Scheisse! We’re Going Up!: The Unexpected Rise of Berlin’s Rebel Football Club by Kit Holden

Ren by Deborah McFadyen

Chatting Lit logo and artwork by Emma Morris (@emmamorrisdesign)
Music by Tom Caruana: https://tomcaruana-teasea.bandcamp.com/music