ChatEDU: AI in Education

By: Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday
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  • Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and K-12 education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.
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  • ChatGPT Goes Nationwide – Will Other Countries Follow Estonia's Lead? | Ep. 48

    ChatGPT Goes Nationwide – Will Other Countries Follow Estonia's Lead? | Ep. 48
    Mar 7 2025

    Overview:


    In this episode of ChatEDU (ChatGPT Goes Nationwide – Will Other Countries Follow Estonia's Lead?), Matt and Liz explore the first national adoption of ChatGPT-EDU in Estonia's schools and what it could mean for AI in education worldwide. Before they get started, Matt and Liz explore some ink blots and have a great convo with Maya and Miles, a new research AI voice model well worth checking out. See link below in the show notes.



    In the News:


    - Vibe Coding: What happens when AI takes on the heavy lifting of coding, allowing users to guide development through ideas and descriptions? Matt and Liz discuss the latest trend in AI-assisted development, including Liz’s first-hand experience building an app for her rhinestone design process.


    - Switching Costs in AI Tools: As ChatGPT surpasses 400 million users, competition between AI models intensifies. With tools like Gemini, Claude, Perplexity, and more in the mix, educators face tough decisions. Matt and Liz examine the hidden costs of switching platforms and what schools should consider before committing to a single AI tool.



    Beneath the Surface:


    - Estonia’s AI-Powered Education System: Estonia has become the first country to fully integrate ChatGPT-EDU into its schools, starting with 10th and 11th graders in 2025. Matt and Liz break down the initiative, its goals for personalized tutoring and AI literacy, and whether other countries might follow suit.


    - The Future of AI in the Classroom: While Estonia bets on AI-driven education, Matt and Liz question whether the focus should be on personalized tutoring or AI-powered problem-solving in real-world contexts. Could AI’s biggest impact be in project-based learning rather than one-on-one tutoring?



    Bright Bytes:


    - Decoding Animal Emotions: A University of Copenhagen AI model can analyze animal vocalizations with 89.49% accuracy, offering potential breakthroughs in animal welfare and conservation.


    - AI-Powered ASL Learning: NVIDIA’s new AI-driven ASL platform helps bridge communication gaps by providing real-time feedback on sign language learning.



    Announcements:


    Join the next cohort of ChatEDU's AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential starting April 14th. Visit skills21.org/ai/micro for details and group discounts.



    Our Episode Sponsor:


    National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing - https://www.nextgenmfg.org



    Related Links:


    Estonia’s AI Education Initiative:

    https://openai.com/index/estonia-schools-and-chatgpt/


    Vibe Coding and AI Development:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/technology/personaltech/vibecoding-ai-software-programming.html + https://medium.com/@niall.mcnulty/vibe-coding-b79a6d3f0caa


    AI Switching Costs in Education:

    https://www.marketplace.org/2025/02/20/chatgpt-now-has-400-million-weekly-users-and-a-lot-of-competition/


    Decoding Animal Emotions with AI:

    https://www.thebrighterside.news/post/groundbreaking-ai-can-accurately-decode-emotions-from-multiple-animal-species/


    AI-Powered ASL Learning by NVIDIA:

    https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/ai-sign-language/


    Sesame AI Voice Model:

    https://www.sesame.com/research/crossing_the_uncanny_valley_of_voice#demo


    Rorschach :

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250224-what-happens-when-you-give-an-ai-a-rorschach-inkblot-test



    Get In Touch:


    Email Matt and Liz at chatedu@edadvance.org and let them know your thoughts on this episode. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to ChatEDU on your favorite podcast platform.
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    49 mins
  • Career Dreaming with Liz – Google's New Gen AI Career Counselor | Ep. 47

    Career Dreaming with Liz – Google's New Gen AI Career Counselor | Ep. 47
    Feb 28 2025


    Overview


    In this episode of ChatEDU (Career Dreaming with Liz – Google's New Gen AI Career Counselor), Matt and Liz explore how AI is shaping career exploration, with a deep dive into Google’s new experimental Gen AI Career Counselor.




    In the News


    AI Literacy Resource Update from Stanford – A look at the newly updated CRAFT AI literacy resource collection, which provides educators with classroom-ready AI teaching tools.


    OpenAI Research on ChatGPT in College – A new study reveals how students are using ChatGPT for coursework and whether professors can detect AI-generated submissions.




    Beneath the Surface


    AI in Career Exploration –

    Google’s Gen AI Career Counselor raises questions about AI’s role in guiding career paths. Matt and Liz discuss its potential impact and what it means for students making big decisions about their futures.




    Bright Bytes


    A new segment highlighting positive contributions of AI, inspired by Steve Hartman’s On the Road series.


    Co-Scientist -

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2469072-can-googles-new-research-assistant-ai-give-scientists-superpowers/


    Mistral’s Saba -

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/17/mistral-releases-regional-model-focused-on-arabic-language-and-culture/




    Our Episode Sponsor - National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing

    https://www.nextgenmfg.org/




    Links Referenced in This Episode


    Stanford’s CRAFT AI Literacy Resources –

    https://craft.stanford.edu/resources/


    OpenAI Study on AI in College –

    https://openai.com/global-affairs/college-students-and-chatgpt/


    Google’s Gen AI Career Counselor –

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/19/googles-career-dreamer-uses-ai-to-help-you-explore-job-possibilities/


    Skills21 PIP -

    https://www.skills21.org/pip-platform




    Got questions or comments? Email Matt and Liz at ChatEDU@edadvance.org. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to ChatEDU on your favorite podcast platform!
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    54 mins
  • Taking the Wheel – How Students and Teachers Are Driving AI in Schools | Ep. 45

    Taking the Wheel – How Students and Teachers Are Driving AI in Schools | Ep. 45
    Feb 21 2025
    Overview:In this episode of ChatEDU (Taking the Wheel – How Students and Teachers Are Driving AI in Schools), Matt and Liz explore how educators and students are leveraging AI to enhance learning, rather than being passive recipients of AI-driven tools. From workforce trends to assessment feedback, they break down the latest research and real-world applications of AI in classrooms.In the News:- AI in the Workforce: A new study reveals how AI is reshaping productivity, benefiting younger, highly-educated, and high-income workers the most. How should schools respond to this shift?- AI and Feedback in Education: Generative AI can provide instant, data-driven feedback, but is it missing the critical human element of recognition? A new study explores the distinction between AI-driven and human-driven feedback.Beneath the Surface:Educators Leading the Charge in AI Adoption- Schools across the country are banding together to explore best practices for AI integration.- Projects in Denver, the Bronx, Wisconsin, and Boston showcase how AI is supporting civics education, multilingual learners, and student interview preparation.- A major takeaway? AI is most powerful when students and teachers actively shape its use, rather than being passive users.Short Stack Chat Back: FDR on Smart Leadership: "I’m not the smartest fellow in the world, but I sure can pick smart colleagues." Bright Bytes – AI for Good:- AI & Healthcare: AI-assisted screening speeds up clinical trials for heart failure treatments without introducing demographic bias.- AI & the Environment: AI-powered sonar helps locate and remove abandoned "ghost nets," reducing harm to marine life.Related Links:AI in the Workforce Study –https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5136877AI and Feedback Study –https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02602938.2025.2459641?af=REducators Leading the Charge in AI Adoptionhttps://www.edsurge.com/news/2025-02-10-these-schools-are-banding-together-to-make-better-use-of-ai-in-educationLearning Accelerator Blog on AI in Schools –https://learningaccelerator.org/ai-powered-teaching-voices-from-the-school-teams-ai-collaborative/Mass General Brigham Study on AI in Healthcare –https://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/en/about/newsroom/press-releases/ai-screening-for-clinical-trial-speeds-up-enrollmentGhost Nets & AI-Powered Sonar –https://digital.ecomagazine.com/articles/ai-sonar-technology-shines-in-ghost-net-recovery-effortsGuardian Article on UK universities and ‘deepfake’ applicants – https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/feb/12/uk-universities-automating-interviews-face-deepfake-applicantsOlder AI Models Study:https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/older-ai-models-show-signs-of-cognitive-decline-study-showsAnnouncements:Join the next cohort of ChatEDU’s AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential starting April 14th. Visitskills21.org/ai/micro for details and group discounts.Our Episode Sponsor: National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing –https://www.nextgenmfg.orgGet in Touch:Have a question or comment? Email Matt and Liz at ChatEDU@edadvance.org. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to ChatEDU on your favorite podcast platform.
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    51 mins

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On a fast ride: AI in teacher preparation

I am a teacher educator. While this podcast targets the K-12 environment, everything we do in teacher preparation is based on what happens in a K-12 setting. The structure, tone, pacing, and information in this podcast is very helpful in getting me up to speed on what I need to know about the use of AI in K-12 so that I can model experiences and assignments for my students. In fact, because this podcast is so helpful I am going to assign my students to listen to a range of episodes. Thanks to the team on their great work. Well done!

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