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  • Summary

  • The fire coloured the night sky. A wall of flames engulfing the building. From her bedroom  in a neighbouring tower block Gill Kernick watched in horror as the Grenfell tower burned. 72 people lost their lives. Gill had lived on Grenfell’s 21st floor for three years. She loved the place, the exquisite views and the community. Now it was gone. As a consultant working in  high hazard industries to create the culture and leadership needed to prevent disasters, Gill felt helpless. This should never have happened. This podcast and the book it accompanies is the result of a vow Gill made as she watched the building burn, a vow to make sure we learned, to in some way honour the lives of those lost. In this series, Catastrophe The Podcast, Gill Kernick and journalist Matthew Price, who she met while he was covering the Grenfell Tower fire, examine how we create disasters. How our established ways of thinking and working contribute to catastrophe. They explore previous major accidents and explore how and why we rarely learn. And they discover that if we are to stop the next catastrophe we need to tear up the established ways of doing things and start along a new road.


    Catastrophe The Podcast is sponsored by JMJ Associates and is a Mother Come Quickly Production.  It runs along side the book by Gill Kernick - Catastrophe and Systemic Change: Learning from the Grenfell Tower and Other Disasters, published by the London Publishing Partnership 



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Episodes
  • Welcome to Catastrophe!
    May 27 2021
    A podcast about how we create disasters and why we don’t learn from them. Led by high hazard consultant Gill Kernick and Radio 4 journalist Matthew Price.

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    2 mins
  • 1. FIRE
    May 26 2021

    TRIGGER WARNING: THERE IS A VERY SHORT CLIP OF THE FIRST EMERGENCY CALL AND SOUNDS OF THE NIGHT NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THIS PODCAST


    In this first episode Gill Kernick and Matthew Price go back to June 2017 when Gill witnessed the terrible fire at Grenfell that killed 72 people.  As she watched the fire rip through the building she felt helpless. She knew, as a consultant advising high hazard industries on how to prevent disasters, that this should never have happened.  With the help of Guillermo Rein, who is a professor of Fire Science at Imperial College London and Diane Coyle who is an economist and co-director of the Bennett Institute for Public Policy at Cambridge University, Gill and Matthew examine the complexities of building safety and look at the myth that regulations keep us safe.


    Sponsored by JMJ Associates - A Mother Come Quickly Production. 





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    36 mins
  • 2. AIR
    May 25 2021

    In this episode Gill Kernick and Matthew Price examine what went wrong with the Boeing 737 Max aircraft.  Why did 346 people lose their lives?  With the help of the consulting editor at Flight Global, David Learmount,  Gill and Matthew look at the culture of Boeing at the time of the accident, and find out why not even the pilots of the new plane knew about MCAS  - a  new technology that led to the disasters.  They speak to retired  NASA Astronaut Jim Wetherbee and domestic airline pilot Laura Einsetler about the importance of listening to the front line and how if bad news is well received we stand a better chance of avoiding catastrophe. 


    Sponsored by JMJ Associates - A Mother Come Quickly Production.



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    44 mins

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