In episode 76 of The Road to Wisdom Podcast, we finally have our men in the studio for a long awaited chat. Now that the fog of 5th babies seems to be subsiding we thought it was a great time to welcome in the dads to chat on a number of things. We answer a few questions from you guys which we cover over two parts (hello 2 hour chat!)

We chat with Brenton and Toga on parenting, masculinity, testosterone, modern fatherhood and its expectations, balancing work and home life, their perspective on navigating wild pregnancy and free birth (and birth in general), intimacy, building connection and so much more.

Part two of this episode will be available the following week.

You can follow Brenton on IG @Brentonthwaites and Toga at @stevetoga

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