• AI with Maribel Lopez: IBM Granite Models with Kate Soule

  • Mar 10 2025
  • Length: 20 mins
  • Podcast

AI with Maribel Lopez: IBM Granite Models with Kate Soule

  • Summary

  • Episode Summary

    In this episode, Maribel Lopez interviews Kate Soule, Director of Technical Product Management for IBM's Granite products. They discuss IBM's third-generation AI models, their focus on efficiency and enterprise readiness, and the latest advancements including vision capabilities and reasoning features.

    Guest

    Kate Soule - Director of Technical Product Management for IBM's Granite products

    Key Topics & Timestamps

    00:04 - Introduction

    • Maribel introduces the show and Kate Soule
    • Brief overview of IBM Granite as fit-for-purpose, open-source enterprise AI models

    00:48 - What is IBM Granite?

    • Designed as core building blocks for enterprises building with generative AI
    • Focus on efficiency with smaller model sizes
    • Monthly innovation updates to keep pace with rapidly evolving field

    02:19 - Understanding AI Reasoning

    • Explanation of reasoning capabilities in AI models
    • How allowing models to generate more text at inference time can improve performance
    • Cost/benefit tradeoffs of reasoning features

    03:13 - Enterprise AI Model Selection Criteria

    • Moving beyond "one model to rule them all" thinking
    • Importance of fit-for-purpose models
    • Why smaller models can be customized more easily
    • Trust and transparency considerations

    05:38 - AI Governance and Safety

    • How to evaluate models for governance requirements
    • Safety evaluations and benchmarks as table stakes
    • Systems-based approach to safety with guardrails
    • IBM's Granite Guardian and protection mechanisms

    08:55 - Benefits of Smaller Models

    • Why size matters: cost, latency, and customization advantages
    • Smaller models are easier to customize and require less computing power
    • IBM's transparent approach to training data

    10:13 - Future of AI Evaluation

    • Performance per cost becoming the key evaluation metric
    • The growing importance of flexibility in model selection
    • How the "efficient frontier" between cost and performance will differentiate providers

    12:41 - IBM's Vision Models

    • IBM's pragmatic enterprise focus for multimodal capabilities
    • Vision understanding (image in, text out) for practical business use cases
    • Specialization for documents, charts, and dashboards
    • Delivering powerful capabilities in only 2 billion parameters

    15:25 - Understanding Model Size Context

    • Evolution from millions to billions of parameters
    • Practical considerations of deploying different-sized models
    • Finding the right cost-benefit trade-off for specific use cases
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