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  • Episode 149 - "Argumentative" Examinations: Speech Masquerading As Questions

    Episode 149 - "Argumentative" Examinations: Speech Masquerading As Questions
    Jan 31 2025
    In this episode, Jim Garrity talks about a tactic of some examining lawyers that should, but often doesn’t, draw objections that their questions are “argumentative.” So, what is an improper, argumentative question or examination? Here, we’re not talking about the questioner’s tone or demeanor, i.e., arguing in the classic sense of yelling and bickering with the deponent. We’re talking about questions where lawyers aren’t really asking a question designed to elicit facts but are instead injecting their own commentary or viewpoint, or injecting insults, taunts, wisecracks, or similar language. "Argumentative" objections are objections to the form, and must be timely made or are waived.SHOW NOTESPeople v. Pawar, No. G037097, 2007 WL 477949, at *2 (Cal. Ct. App. Feb. 15, 2007) (“[W]ere they lying” queries are improper if they are merely argumentative. (Chatman, supra, 38 Cal.4th at pp. 381, 384.) In Chatman, the prosecutor asked the defendant how the safe at a store was opened. (Id. at p. 379.) The defendant replied “he could not say; he never touched the safe,” eliciting the prosecutor's query, “ ‘Well, is the safe lying about you?’ “ (Ibid.) The Supreme Court held the question of whether an inanimate object was “lying” was argumentative , defining argumentative inquiry as “speech to the jury masquerading as a question” which “does not seek to elicit relevant, competent testimony, or often any testimony at all.” (Id. at p. 384.))Faile v. Zarich, No. HHDX04CV5015994S, 2008 WL 2967045, at *3 (Conn. Super. Ct. July 10, 2008) (Webster's. . . in the closest relevant definition, defines “argumentative” as “consisting of or characterized by argument: containing a process of reasoning: controversial”)Pardee v. State, No. 06-11-00226-CR, 2012 WL 3516485, at *6 (Tex. App. Aug. 16, 2012) (Steven Goode, et al., Texas Practice Series: Courtroom Handbook on Texas Evidence § 611 cmt. 12 (2012); see United States v. Yakobowicz, 427 F.3d 144, 151 (2d Cir.N.Y.2005) (defining argumentative as “summation-like remarks by counsel during the presentation of evidence”); accord Eddlemon v. State, 591 S.W.2d 847, 851 (Tex.Crim.App. [Panel Op.] 1979) (trial court did not abuse discretion in finding the question, “You don't believe your own offense report?” argumentative). In other words, an argumentative objection concerns whether counsel is attempting to “argue” the case, not whether the counsel is “arguing” with the witness”)United States v. Yakobowicz, 427 F.3d 144, 151 (2d Cir. 2005) (“During the presentation of evidence one of the most commonly sustained objections is that a particular question is argumentative, Fed.R.Evid. 611(a) advisory committee's note to Subdivision (a) to 1972 Proposed Rules, and any summation-like remarks by counsel during the presentation of evidence are improper and subject as a routine matter to being stricken, Mauet & Wolfson, supra, at 30”)Pardee v. State, No. 06-11-00226-CR, 2012 WL 3516485, at *6 (Tex. App. Aug. 16, 2012) ("Many common law objections—including the objection of “argumentative”—are incorporated in the Texas Rules of Evidence. The common law argumentative objection is now governed by Tex.R. Evid. 611 which concerns the mode of interrogation and presentation. The argumentative objection is an objection commonly used, but not commonly understood. Pardee argues the objection should have been sustained because the State was “arguing” with the defendant. Argumentative, though, does not concern counsel's demeanor or tone. Professors Wellborn, Goode, and Sharlot explain the argumentative objection as follows: Counsel may not, in the guise of asking a question, make a jury argument or attempt to summarize, draw inferences from, or comment on the evidence. In addition, questions that ask a witness to testify as to his own credibility are improper.")People v. Chatman, 38 Cal. 4th 344, 384, 133 P.3d 534, 563 (2006) The prosecutor's question about whether the safe was “lying” requires a different analysis. The question was argumentative. An argumentative question is a speech to the jury masquerading as a question. The questioner is not seeking to elicit relevant testimony. Often it is apparent that the questioner does not even expect an answer. The question may, indeed, be unanswerable. The prosecutor's question whether “the safe [was] lying” is an example. An inanimate object cannot “lie.” Professor Wigmore has called cross-examination the “greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.” (5 Wigmore on Evidence (Chadbourne rev. ed.1974) § 1367, p. 32.) The engine should be allowed to run, but it cannot be allowed to run amok. An argumentative question that essentially talks past the witness, and makes an argument to the jury, is improper because it does not seek to elicit relevant, competent testimony, or often any testimony at all. ...
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    11 mins
  • Episode 148 - Revisiting the Problem of Examiners Who Interrupt Your Deponents' Answers

    Episode 148 - Revisiting the Problem of Examiners Who Interrupt Your Deponents' Answers
    Jan 4 2025
    Today Jim Garrity revisits the headaches caused by examining lawyers who frequently interrupt your deponents' answers. To combat this problem, Garrity offers you a six-pronged strategy for stopping this practice and/or creating a strong record that will allow your deponents to later add materially to their interrupted testimony, whether by errata sheet, affidavit, or live testimony. Courts are far more likely to allow that where you've used Garrity's strategies. (By the way, if you have a moment, would you send our production team a small "thank you" by leaving us a five-star rating wherever you listen to our podcast? It takes just 30 seconds - we timed it! - and it's deeply appreciated. Our crew devotes a great deal of time to research and production, and the podcast is not only free, but also uncluttered by pesky advertising. Thank you so much.)SHOW NOTESIn re Injectafer Prod. Liab. Litig. ALL CASES, No. CV 19-276, 2022 WL 4280491 (E.D. Pa. Sept. 15, 2022) (“Defendants propose. . . changing “It would be one of the—yes” to “It would be one of the sources of information. Yes.” This change is not necessarily inconsistent with the original testimony because it appears that the deponent was cut off or otherwise stopped speaking in the middle of the sentence and is justified as making the answer more complete. See id. While finishing a thought is not necessarily a proper justification for an errata modification, here it appears to be justified and within the flexible scope of the Third Circuit's approach to Rule 30(e)")Grey v. Amex Assurance Company, 2002 WL 31242195, No. B152467 (Ct. App. Calif. Oct. 7, 2002) (reversing summary judgment in part because trial court abused discretion in failing to consider errata sheet containing “changes. . . made because the witness was interrupted before completing her answers;” further noting that the defendant “. . .took the risk that [the plaintiff’s] corrections would bring some of its undisputed facts into controversy”)Arce v. Chicago Transit Authority, 311 F.R.D. 504, 512 (N.D. Ill. 2015) (denying, without prejudice, motion to strike errata sheet, as motion failed to specifically discuss many of the 67 changes defendant wanted stricken; noting that “The reason given for the vast majority of the 67 changes was that [Plaintiff] “did not finish” her answer during the deposition, though the transcript does not reflect that she was interrupted and prevented from doing so,” and outlining how various courts and commentators deal with the extent to which changes to testimony can be made on errata sheets)Arce v. Chicago Transit Authority, F.R.D. 504, 512, fn. 5 (N.D. Ill. 2015) (noting that, if one looks back at the early origins of the rule on errata sheets, quoted in this opinion, it may be argued that the intent of the drafters was indeed to limit changes to clerical-level mistakes, not to allow substantive changes): "One commentator who examined the history of the rule dating back to the original Equity Rule 67, and the twin Equity Rules 50 and 51 that succeeded it, concluded that Rule 30 was never intended to allow for more than the correction of transcription errors: "Appeals to the plain language of Rule 30(e) are incomplete and misleading without reference to the Rule's transcriptive focus. Read in historical context, the Rule appears to be distinctly clerical, ill-equipped—and never intended—to embrace substantive changes. Although its wording has changed over time, Rule 30(e) has retained one modest but steady focus: the who, how, and what of accurate transcription. The Rule is meant to secure an accurate representation of what was said, leaving to another day (and frequently to the mechanisms of Rule 56) the question of the meaning and implication of the deposition content for purposes of material factual disputes. The common understanding of Rule 30(e) has moved far afield from that mild ambition, giving us the confusion and circuit split we know today. Read in light of its history, the Rule clearly embraces a transcriptive focus. Ruehlmann, Jr., supra, at 915. Rule 30(e)’s counterpart in Illinois state court, Supreme Court Rule 207(a), was amended to limit corrections to transcription errors because the “potential for testimonial abuse” had “become increasingly evident as witnesses submit[ted] lengthy errata sheets in which their testimony [was] drastically altered....” Ill. Sup. Ct. R. 207(a), Rules Committee Comment to Paragraph (a) (1995)Arce v. Chicago Transit Authority, 311 F.R.D. 504, 511 (N.D. Ill. 2015) (citing Deposition Dilemmas: Vexatious Scheduling and Errata Sheets, 12 Geo. J. Legal Ethics 1, 60 (1998), for its author’s argument that Rule 30(e) permits “opposing counsel, at her choosing, to introduce both versions to the jury”)Thorn v. Sundstrand Aerospace Corp., 207 F.3d 383 (7th Cir.2000) (observing, as to changes in errata sheet, that what the witness “tried to do, whether ...
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    17 mins
  • Episode 147 - Going Off the Record While The Deponent Reads Documents? Here’s Why You Shouldn’t.

    Episode 147 - Going Off the Record While The Deponent Reads Documents? Here’s Why You Shouldn’t.
    Dec 20 2024

    Some examiners will mark a voluminous document as an exhibit and then declare that "we'll go off the record while the deponent reads it." But "going off the record" for this purpose is an unwise practice and is fraught with risks to both the examining and defending lawyer. Jim Garrity explains why.

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    15 mins
  • Episode 146 - Thorny Hedges: Linguistic Qualifiers (I Think, I Feel, I Believe) That Weaken Testimony

    Episode 146 - Thorny Hedges: Linguistic Qualifiers (I Think, I Feel, I Believe) That Weaken Testimony
    Dec 2 2024

    In this episode, Jim talks about the habit of some deponents of qualifying their answers by using words like think, feel, believe, and presume. These words are known in academic and psychological circles as "linguistic hedges." They're common and harmless in social conversations. But in the unforgiving world of sworn testimony, they create a record suggesting witnesses don't know what they're talking about. Not only do hedges diminish the force of testimony, but they can render it entirely inadmissible. In the wrap-up, Jim provides specific practice strategies for impressing upon clients that the lax and incautious use of hedges can inflict grievous harm on their claims or defenses. He also explains how to train clients to avoid using hedges when testifying.

    SHOW NOTES

    Strategic Use Of (UN)certainty Expressions, Lorson, Cummins and Rohde, Frontiers in Communications, Mar. 18, 2021, https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/communication/articles/10.3389/fcomm.2021.635156/full

    The Use of Hedging in Research Articles on Applied Linguistics, Livytska, I., Journal of Language and Cultural Education (July 2019), https://sciendo.com/article/10.2478/jolace-2019-0003

    Hedging and Academic Writing: An Analysis of Lexical Hedges, Demir, C., Journal of Language and Linguistic Studies, 14(4) (2018), https://www.jlls.org/index.php/jlls/article/view/812

    Linguistic Hedging In The Light Of Politeness Theory, Vlasyan, G., European Proceedings of Social and Behavioural Sciences (2018), https://www.europeanproceedings.com/article/10.15405/epsbs.2018.04.02.98

    A Study of Hedges in Courtroom Oral Arguments from the Perspective of Contextual Adaption, Chen and Zhang, International Journal of Multidisciplinary Research and Publications, https://ijmrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/IJMRAP-V4N8P114Y22.pdf

    Hedging in Courtroom Discourse, Lebedeva and Gribanova, http://ial-journal.org/en/node/53

    Middleton v. May, et al., Third Report and Recommendation [CM/ECF Doc. 107], Sherrill, J., Case No. 4:08-cv-452-RH-WCS (N. D. Fla. Feb. 9, 2010) report and recommendation adopted, Order Granting Summary Judgment for Defendants, Hinkle, J., [Doc. 109] (“Plaintiff's statement as incorporated in doc. 93-3 is signed under penalty of perjury, although each material statement of fact is an equivocating statement beginning with "Upon information and belief . . . ." Such a statement is not sufficient as evidence and is inadmissible in its present form. A declaration expressing that statements are "true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief" carries with it the plain implication that the affiant does not know whether the statements are true or not, and does not wish to be held accountable if they are not.6 While admittedly the phrase "best of my knowledge and belief" or "information and belief" is a part of common speech, it equivocates and, therefore, does not meet the requirements of Rule 56(e) that an affidavit "be made on personal knowledge" and "show affirmatively that the affiant is competent to testify to the matters stated therein." Rule 56(e)'s personal knowledge requirements prevents such statement "from raising genuine issues of fact sufficient to defeat summary judgment." Pace v. Capobiano, 283 F.3d 1275, 1278-79 (11th Cir. 2002). Accordingly, Plaintiff's statement of facts and declaration cannot be considered in response to Defendants' summary judgment motion”)
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    17 mins
  • Episode 145 - A Catchall Objection for Unusual Deposition Situations

    Episode 145 - A Catchall Objection for Unusual Deposition Situations
    Nov 15 2024

    Have you ever been in a deposition and noticed something improper and prejudicial, but couldn't think of a precise objection to make? There might not be one. For example, many deponents now appear by remote video in unconventional settings - living rooms, hotel lobbies, or their cars - where others are present and may disrupt or influence the testimony. The rules' drafters couldn't possibly anticipate these new challenges. So, for misconduct that isn't squarely covered by a specific objection, Jim provides you with a single broad "super-objection" that will cover virtually any irregularities. This will help protect your right to exclude testimony, or the entire deposition, as needed. (As always, thank you for listening, and please take 30 seconds and leave us a 5-star review wherever you get your podcasts. It's a fast, free, and fantastic way to thank our production crew. We deeply appreciate it.)

    SHOW NOTES

    Ratliffe v. BRP U.S., INC., et al., No. 1:20-CV-00234-JAW, 2024 WL 4728898 (D. Me. Nov. 8, 2024) (order denying motion in limine to exclude deposition where witness’ mother assisted deponent while testifying; held, objections to alleged impropriety waived)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(d)(3)(A) (allows court relief where deposition is being conducted in bad faith or in a manner that unreasonably annoys, embarrasses, or oppresses the deponent or party)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 32(d)(3)(B) (deeming objections waived if not made during the deposition where objection is to any irregularity in the way the deposition is being conducted)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c) (allowing protective order permitting or forbidding discovery if necessary to ensure fair proceedings)

    Fed. R. Evid. 403 (allowing exclusion of evidence on grounds of unfair prejudice, confusing the issues, misleading the jury, undue delay, wasting time, or needlessly presenting cumulative evidence)

    United States v. Simmons, 515 F. Supp. 3d 1359, 1364 (M.D. Ga. 2021) (“While “unreasonable” and “oppressive” are not defined under Rule 17, they have a common sense meaning, and courts finding a valid and specific privilege may quash subpoenas on that ground”)

    Heartland Hotel Corp. v. Nat'l Union Fire Ins. Co. of Pittsburgh, PA, No. CV 07-2147, 2008 WL 11440623, at *8 (W.D. Ark. Aug. 5, 2008) (“Oppressive ” is defined in Webster's Third New International Dictionary as “unreasonably burdensome” and “unjustly severe, rigorous or harsh”)
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    10 mins
  • Episode 144 - Narrative Objections Aren’t Necessarily “Speaking Objections” or Coaching

    Episode 144 - Narrative Objections Aren’t Necessarily “Speaking Objections” or Coaching
    Nov 6 2024

    Today Jim Garrity tackles the topic of narrative objections, which are objections that go beyond a simple "Form!" or "Objection!" and provide a concise explanation of the grounds for the objection. Some litigators see anything beyond a single word as a speaking objection or as coaching, but that's not so. Jim untangles the spaghetti in this episode.

    (By the way, there are a total of 12 cases and rules listed in the show notes. If you don't see them all, click through to our podcast page, and you'll find them there. Some hosting sites truncate show notes to save space. And, if you have a moment, would you please leave us a 5-star rating wherever you're listening to us? It takes less than 30 seconds, but it's a huge incentive for us to put these episodes together. We offer critical expert insights in this podcast, as well as the research to back it up, and it's all free. The 5-star ratings are a great way to send us a thank you back. Thanks!)

    SHOW NOTES

    B.P. v. City of Johnson City, No. 2:23-CV-71-TRM-JEM, 2024 WL 3461408 (E.D. Tenn. July 18, 2024) (statement that pages were out of order or missing, following objection, wasn’t improper “speaking objection” but, rather, articulated basis for objection; court also found no basis to limit defending lawyers to word “objection” during deposition, as lawyer must state basis for it)

    Dino Antolini, Plaintiff, v. Amy McCloskey, et al., Defendants., No. 1:19-CV-09038-GBD-SDA, Not Reported in Fed. Supp., 2021 WL 5411176, (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 19, 2021) (citing cases for proposition that objections should be made using the single word “Objection” unless the basis for the objection is requested; providing numerous examples of alleged speaking objections)

    R.D. v. Shohola, Inc., No. 3:16-cv-01056, Not Reported in Fed. Supp., 2019 WL 6134731 (M.D. Pa. Nov. 19, 2019) (in context of pretrial rulings, court declined to grant motion in limine barring speaking objections, saying, “However, because “we deem the question of what constitutes an improper speaking objection, an inappropriate comment on excluded evidence, or an improper ad hominem exchange to be fact bound matters which cannot be determined wholly in the abstract, we will defer further rulings on these motions pending proper objections at trial”)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 30(c)(2) requiring objections to “be stated concisely in a non-argumentative and non-suggestive manner”)

    Committee Notes to 1993 Amendments (stating that new paragraph (1) at the time provides that “that any objections during a deposition must be made concisely and in a non-argumentative and non-suggestive manner;” rule does not tell us how to make an objection, such as by word “objection”)

    Brent v. Cramer, et al., No. CV JKB-22-1349, 2024 WL 3878145 (D. Md. Aug. 20, 2024), fn. 4 (providing examples of alleged speaking objections)

    Christie v. Royal Caribbean Cruises, Ltd, No. 20-22349, 2021 WL 2940251 (S.D. Fla. July 13, 2021) (examples of speaking objections)

    State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Company v. Dowdy, 445 F. Supp.2d 1289 (N. D. Oklahoma July 21, 2006)

    In re Stratosphere Corporation Securities Litigation, 182 F. R. D. 614 (D. Nevada 1998) (“This Court can find no better or more succinct definition or description of what is and is not a valid deposition objection than that found in Rule 30(d)(1): “Any objection to evidence during the deposition shall be stated concisely and in a non-argumentative and non-suggestive manner”)

    Mitnor v. Club Condominiums, et al., 339 F.R.D. 312, 317-318 (N.D. Fla. 2021) (describing some of the essential characteristics of an improper speaking objection)

    Fed. R. Evid. 103 (providing that in order to preserve and objection, a party must timely object or move to strike and state the specific ground for the objection, and less it is apparent by context)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 32(d) (Waiver of Objections)
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    21 mins
  • Episode 143 - Depo Case Digest for the week of July 29, 2024

    Episode 143 - Depo Case Digest for the week of July 29, 2024
    Jul 31 2024

    Today's roundup of new deposition-related cases focuses on four rulings. One offers a great strategy to exclude hostile deponents' deposition testimony, where they answer your opponents' questions but refuse to let you fully and fairly cross-examine them. A second touches on the age-old question of whether "Form!" or "Objection!" is enough or whether you must articulate the specific evidentiary basis. The third offers an idea for administering a slightly modified oath to immature deponents who might not understand the standard oath. The fourth looks at a novel approach one party took in noticing an individual witness with an attached, lengthy 30(b)(6) list of topics relating to matters that seemed better suited for a corporate representative.

    Thanks for listening! And be sure to check out the book upon which this podcast is based, 10,000 Depositions Later: The Premier Litigation Guide for Superior Deposition Practice. Available on Amazon and almost everywhere else books are sold. Now in it's fourth edition at 600 pages. It's a career-saving resource.

    SHOW NOTES

    Perrot v. Kelly, et al., Case No. 18-cv-10147, 2023 WL 11873009 (D. Mass. October 27, 2003) (reserving right to exclude deponent's testimony if witness continued to thwart plaintiff's opportunity to fully and fairly examine her, under FRE 804 relating to witness "unavailability"; court appears to equate refusal to give testimony with unavailability)

    B.P., et al. v. City of Johnson City, et al., No. 2:23-cv-71-TRM-JEM, 2024 WL 3461408 (E. D. Tenn. July 18, 2024) (refusing to limit lawyer to word "Objection" during depositions, and stating that lawyers have obligation to state the specific basis for the objection and not limit it to "objection" or "form" alone; further declining to sanction lawyer for longer narrative objections about incomplete documents because they were not intended to coach witness as to a particular answer)

    People v. Lopez, 550 P.3d 731 (Ct. App. Colo 2024) (affirming conviction of criminal defendant over objection that trial judge conducted modified administration of oath to 10-year old witness; finding that modified oath is appropriate for an immature witness who may not understand standard oath)

    Jacobs, et al. v. Journal Publishing Company, et al., Case No. 21-690-MW/SCY, 2024 WL 3401048 (D. N. M. July 12, 2024) (rejecting plaintiffs' effort to depose individual by serving FRCP 30(b)(6)-style deposition notice with lengthy attached topic list)

    See, 30(b)(6)-style Deposition Notice Served on Individual, PACER CM/ECF Doc. No. 135-1 (showing notice with attached topic list and list of documents to be brought by individual deponent) Jacobs, et al. v. Journal Publishing Company, et al., Case No. 21-690-MW/SCY, 2024 WL 3401048 (D. N. M. July 12, 2024)
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    17 mins
  • Episode 142 - Deposition Protocol Stipulations

    Episode 142 - Deposition Protocol Stipulations
    Jul 17 2024

    In this episode, Jim Garrity discusses deposition protocol stipulations, which are agreements between the parties that establish the framework for noticing and conducting depositions. They're common in class-action and multi-district cases, but they're useful - and underutilized - in ordinary litigation as well. They can also be used to create internal deposition guidelines for law firms and legal organizations. Jim lists about three dozen common provisions in such agreements and offers practice tips on proposing and implementing them. Have a listen!

    SHOW NOTES

    Stipulation and Order Governing Protocol for Fact Depositions and Rule 30(b)(6)/PMQ Depositions [CM/ECF Doc. 742), In re Social Media Adolescent Addiction/Personal Injury Products Liability Litigation, Case No. 4:22-md-03047-YGR (S. D. Cal. April 3, 2024) (36 pages)Protocol Governing Depositions, Dennis, et al. v. JPMorgan Chase & Co., et al., Case No. 1:16-cv-6496 (S. D. N. Y. June 23, 2020) [CM/ECF Doc. 419-1) (14 pages)

    Stipulation And Order Regarding Remote Depositions [CM/ECF Doc. 108], FTC v. Tapestry, Inc., et al., Case No. 1:24-cv-03109 (S. D. N. Y. June 6, 2024) (15 pages)

    Stipulation And [Proposed] Order Regarding Remote Depositions, In the Matter of Tapestry Inc., A Corp., & Capri Holdings Ltd., A Corp., Respondents., No. 9429, 2024 WL 3203213 (MSNET June 13, 2024) (related proceeding before Federal Trade Commission) (11 pages)

    Deposition Protocol Order, In Re Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001, Case No. 1:03-md-01570-GBD-SN (S. D. N. Y. January 31, 2018) [CM/ECF Doc. 3894) (15 pages)

    Fed. R. Civ. P. 29(a) (rule on discovery stipulations between parties)

    Episode 22, FRCP 29(a) Stipulations: A Way to Save Time, Money & Headaches, 10,000 Depositions Later Podcast, released December 25, 2020 (30 minutes)
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    18 mins