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How Three Women Rewrote the Story of War
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Elizabeth Becker
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The long-buried story of three extraordinary female journalists who permanently shattered the barriers to women covering war
Kate Webb, an Australian iconoclast, Catherine Leroy, a French daredevil photographer, and Frances FitzGerald, a blue-blood American intellectual, arrived in Vietnam with starkly different life experiences but one shared purpose: to report on the most consequential story of the decade. At a time when women were considered unfit to be foreign reporters, Frankie, Catherine, and Kate challenged the rules imposed on them by the military, ignored the belittlement of their male peers, and ultimately altered the craft of war reportage for generations.
In You Don’t Belong Here, Elizabeth Becker uses these women’s work and lives to illuminate the Vietnam War from the 1965 American buildup, the expansion into Cambodia, and the American defeat and its aftermath. Arriving herself in the last years of the war, Becker writes as a historian and a witness of the times.
What emerges is an unforgettable story of three journalists forging their place in a land of men, often at great personal sacrifice. Deeply reported and filled with personal letters, interviews, and profound insight, You Don’t Belong Here fills a void in the history of women and of war.
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Spies, codes, and guerrillas played unprecedentedly critical roles in the Second World War, exploited by every nation in the struggle to gain secret knowledge of its foes, and to sow havoc behind the fronts. In The Secret War, Max Hastings presents a worldwide cast of characters and some extraordinary sagas of intelligence and resistance, to create a new perspective on the greatest conflict in history.
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Better read than listened to
- By B. In -t Veld on 03-25-17
By: Max Hastings
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Labyrinths
- Emma Jung, Her Marriage to Carl, and the Early Years of Psychoanalysis
- By: Catrine Clay
- Narrated by: Karen Cass
- Length: 11 hrs and 12 mins
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Clever and ambitious, Emma Jung yearned to study the natural sciences at the University of Zurich. But the strict rules of proper Swiss society at the beginning of the 20th century dictated that a woman of Emma's stature - one of the richest heiresses in Switzerland - travel to Paris to "finish" her education, to prepare for marriage to a suitable man. Engaged to the son of one of her father's wealthy business colleagues, Emma's conventional and predictable life was upended when she met Carl Jung.
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Carl plays center stage
- By Sparrowhawk on 12-23-16
By: Catrine Clay
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The Secret Diary of Hendrik Groen
- By: Hendrik Groen, Hester Velmans - translator
- Narrated by: Derek Jacobi
- Length: 11 hrs and 53 mins
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Hendrik Groen may be old, but he is far from dead and isn't planning to be buried any time soon. Granted, his daily strolls are getting shorter because his legs are no longer willing, and he has to visit his doctor more than he'd like. Technically speaking he is...elderly. But surely there is more to life at his age than weak tea and potted geraniums? Hendrik sets out to write an exposé: a year in the life of his care home in Amsterdam, revealing all its ups and downs.
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- By David on 04-10-19
By: Hendrik Groen, and others
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But Will You Love Me Tomorrow?
- An Oral History of the '60s Girl Groups
- By: Laura Flam, Emily Sieu Liebowitz
- Narrated by: Laura Flam, Emily Sieu Liebowitz, Robin Eller, and others
- Length: 14 hrs and 40 mins
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The girl group sound, made famous and unforgettable by acts like The Ronettes, The Shirelles, The Supremes, and The Vandellas, took over the airwaves by capturing the mixture of innocence and rebellion emblematic of America in the 1960s. But while the songs are essential to the American canon, many of the artists remain all but anonymous to most listeners. But Will You Love Me Tomorrow?: An Oral History of 60s Girl Groups tells a national coming-of-age story that gives particular insight into the experiences of the female singers and songwriters who created the movement.
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Now More Than Ever
- By priest on 09-15-23
By: Laura Flam, and others
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The Spy Who Knew Too Much
- An Ex-CIA Officer’s Quest Through a Legacy of Betrayal
- By: Howard Blum
- Narrated by: Steve Hendrickson
- Length: 10 hrs and 6 mins
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On a sunlit morning in September 1978, a sloop drifts aimlessly across the Chesapeake Bay. The cabin reveals signs of a struggle, and “classified” documents, live 9 mm cartridges, and a top-secret “burst” satellite communications transmitter are discovered aboard. But where is the boat’s owner, former CIA officer John Paisley? One man may hold the key to finding out. Tennent “Pete” Bagley was once a rising star in America’s spy aristocracy, and many expected he’d eventually become CIA director.
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The, too long, story of an obsession
- By Tony on 10-30-22
By: Howard Blum
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Win at All Costs
- Inside Nike Running and Its Culture of Deception
- By: Matt Hart
- Narrated by: Josh Bloomberg
- Length: 13 hrs and 38 mins
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In May 2017, journalist Matt Hart received a USB drive containing a single file—a 4.7-megabyte PDF named “Tic Toc, Tic Toc. . . .” He quickly realized he was in possession of a stolen report prepared a year earlier by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, part of an investigation into legendary running coach Alberto Salazar, an endocrinologist named Dr. Jeffrey Brown, and cheating by Nike-sponsored runners. Combining sports drama and business exposé, Win at All Costs tells the full story of Nike’s running program, uncovering a corporate win-at-all-costs culture.
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Nicely done
- By Pete Sakalowsky on 09-23-21
By: Matt Hart
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Poland 1939
- The Outbreak of World War II
- By: Roger Moorhouse
- Narrated by: Roger Moorhouse
- Length: 12 hrs and 38 mins
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For Americans, World War II began in December of 1941, with the bombing of Pearl Harbor; but for Poland, the war began on September 1, 1939, when Hitler's soldiers invaded, followed later that month by Stalin's Red Army. The conflict that followed saw the debut of many of the features that would come to define the later war-blitzkrieg, the targeting of civilians, ethnic cleansing, and indiscriminate aerial bombing-yet it is routinely overlooked by historians.
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Always Overlooked
- By C. G. Telcontar on 05-27-21
By: Roger Moorhouse
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The Pity of War
- Explaining World War I
- By: Niall Ferguson
- Narrated by: Graeme Malcolm
- Length: 21 hrs and 38 mins
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The Pity of War makes a simple and provocative argument: the human atrocity known as the Great War was entirely England's fault. According to Niall Ferguson, England entered into war based on naive assumptions of German aims, thereby transforming a Continental conflict into a world war, which it then badly mishandled, necessitating American involvement. The war was not inevitable, Ferguson argues, but rather was the result of the mistaken decisions of individuals who would later claim to have been in the grip of huge impersonal forces.
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Ferguson wouldn’t know history if it hit him in the head
- By Schen on 10-07-20
By: Niall Ferguson
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Vision
- A Memoir of Blindness and Justice
- By: David S. Tatel
- Narrated by: John Lescault, David S. Tatel
- Length: 10 hrs and 18 mins
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David Tatel has served nearly 30 years on America’s second highest court, the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, where many of our most crucial cases are resolved—or teed up for the Supreme Court. He has championed equal justice for his entire adult life; decided landmark environmental and voting cases; and embodied the ideal of what a great judge should be. Yet he has been blind for the past 50 of his 80-plus years.
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A wonderful and inspiring listen, a clear and compelling story
- By D on 06-13-24
By: David S. Tatel
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Tough Titties
- On Living Your Best Life When You're the F-ing Worst
- By: Laura Belgray
- Narrated by: Laura Belgray
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
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Tough Titties is one big permission slip to be a dork, a sometimes-unspiritual slacker, a late bloomer and, ultimately, 100% yourself. It’ll also have you snort-laughing in public and tapping whoever’s nearby to say, “Lemme read you one more part!” Which is annoying, but tough titties.
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Plum! jinx!
- By Emily on 07-19-23
By: Laura Belgray
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Odd Girl Out
- By: Laura James
- Narrated by: Lucinda Clare
- Length: 8 hrs and 43 mins
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From childhood, Laura James knew she was different. She struggled to cope in a world that often made no sense to her, as though her brain had its own operating system. It wasn't until she reached her 40s that she found out why: Suddenly and surprisingly, she was diagnosed with autism. With a touching and searing honesty, Laura challenges everything we think we know about what it means to be autistic. Married with four children and a successful journalist, Laura examines the ways in which autism has shaped her career, her approach to motherhood, and her closest relationships.
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Narration is not my favorite
- By Linden on 03-01-21
By: Laura James
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In the Blood
- How Two Outsiders Solved a Centuries-Old Medical Mystery and Took On the US Army
- By: Charles Barber
- Narrated by: Ron Butler
- Length: 7 hrs and 50 mins
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At the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu, dramatized by the popular film Black Hawk Down, the majority of soldiers who died were killed instantly or bled to death before they could reach an operating table. This tragedy reinforced the need for a revolutionary treatment that could transform trauma medicine. So, when Frank Hursey and Bart Gullong—who had no medical or military experience—discovered that a cheap, crushed rock called zeolite had blood‑clotting properties, they brought it to the military's attention. The Marines and the Navy adopted the resulting product, QuikClot, immediately.
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Excellent medical history
- By Anthony on 07-01-23
By: Charles Barber
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Lady in Waiting
- My Extraordinary Life in the Shadow of the Crown
- By: Anne Glenconner
- Narrated by: Anne Glenconner
- Length: 9 hrs and 9 mins
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Anne Glenconner has been at the center of the royal circle from childhood, when she met and befriended the future Queen Elizabeth II and her sister, the Princess Margaret. Though the firstborn child of the fifth Earl of Leicester, who controlled one of the largest estates in England, as a daughter she was deemed "the greatest disappointment" and unable to inherit. Since then she has needed all her resilience to survive court life with her sense of humor intact.
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Horrible Reading
- By Teddy hall on 03-27-20
By: Anne Glenconner
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- Anonymous User
- 05-03-22
Fascinating
Excellent study of three female journalists enduring the sexism, devastation of war & fight to tell the truth and get published.
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- David
- 01-31-23
A Riveting Story
Excellent history lesson that gave this male Viet Nam veteran an important insight into that war and the aftermath from a female perspective.
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- Claudia
- 07-08-21
Fascinating history
This book is a truly fascinating look at three women who covered the war in Vietnam. My husband and I listened eagerly.
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- Auldyn Wessel
- 06-05-21
A great Story
This book held me spellbound. Everyone needs to know about these brave woman. A must read.
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- William R. Croninger
- 03-17-21
Very good read
Surprised that so few have listened to this production. The three contributors each follow different paths to Vietnam. The experiences of these women combine to give the listener three very valid sources for understanding the war more deeply. Each of them also provide a more thorough understanding of what war costs those who experience it: warrior, innocent and observer.
Women serve today as warriors, but these three had to prove that they were even capable of being observers... and they had to prove it over and over again. My only quibble is with some of the pronunciations of Vietnamese words. Hue (Way) is pronounced as who-ee to name but one. I would have preferred something like "Who-ee which was often called Way by Americans." It is admittedly a minor point, but a jarring one for those of us who served there.
It is an excellent read and I would recommend it without reservation.
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- DFrey
- 09-28-22
Amazing
Breath taking of the ordeals of the times! Thought provoking of a point in history.
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- Penelopatty
- 03-27-21
Good book for Vietnam buffs
This is an interesting book if you’re interested in the history of the American involvement in Vietnam and Cambodia.
Lisa Flanagans’s performance, however, while generally smooth and intelligent and easy to listen to, is marred by frequent mispronunciations such as “Pyoo-litzer” rather than “Pull-it-Sir” (as the Pulitzer family pronounced it), and a bevy of phrases in french. Since french comes up a lot in a story mostly situated in Vietnam, Ms Flanagan might take some time learning proper french pronunciation. Typical errors are pronouncing “de” as “day” rather than “duh,” or really any word that contains the e vowel, in its various forms, which she seems to guess at. It’s pretty grating since it comes up every other page. She might do well to take a little course in french pronunciation because she’s such a good reader, it’s a shame.
I also found Becker’s need to reassure us that her heroines were very attractive women was in itself sexist. If she were describing men, she wouldn’t keep telling readers what they were wearing and how great their figures were. I found it instrusive and grating.
All in all it’s an interesting book, adding a layer of detail to the general knowledge those of us who lived through that period already probably possess. These extraordinary women set an example for female, indeed all, journalists to follow.
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- Laura King
- 05-26-23
Insightful
This is an important piece of history that's been told. These three women made a wonderful contribution to journalism, changing the viewpoint of the Vietnam War.
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- Anonymous User
- 01-11-22
Review of you don’t belong here by Ellizabeth Becker.
As a child of this time and a child of Watergate I found this book most compelling; it was an excellent review and it jogged memories that I hadn’t thought of for many years. These three war correspondents experiences in Vietnam and Cambodia epitomized the time; women’s liberation, misogyny, PTSD. It captured their experience very nicely. I will say that I did have some problem with reacquainting myself with the geography of Vietnam and coping with the spelling of places in Vietnamese. I’m not Sure how you rectify that situation maybe including a more complete gazetteer of the places mentioned in the story. These women truly were brave they are the very definition of courageous, it’s unfortunate that they did not seek treatment for PTSD after their harrowing ride in Indo-China ended.
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- Anonymous User
- 04-07-21
Caring about Vietnam
Three remarkable women spent years of their lives dedicated to informing the world about the war in Vietnam, sharing their compassion for our troops, for Vietnamese combatants on both sides, and of their outrage at war. Brilliant retrospective history of the wars in Vietnam and in Cambodia. Beautifully written tribute to three brave women.
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