True Obedience in the Church
A Guide to Discernment in Challenging Times
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Pope Benedict XVI affirmed the ongoing growth and perpetual validity of the Traditional Latin Mass, insisting that "what earlier generations held as sacred remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden, or even considered harmful".
However, with the 2021 release of Traditionis Custodes, his successor has declared the opposite, sending shockwaves through the Church by calling for the restriction and eventual suppression of her most beautiful and venerable form of worship, and the one experiencing the most dramatic and impassioned growth. What is a conscientious Catholic to do?
In this pivotal book, Dr. Peter Kwasniewski offers a treatise on obedience in the Church—whence it derives and how it is to be properly and prudently understood and lived. He explores St. Thomas Aquinas' guidelines on the subject, what type of obedience is necessary for salvation, and which types are lawful and unlawful.
Can there be situations where the usual structures of obedience become impediments to, rather than facilitators of, the Church's mission and the good of souls? Have there been instances in Church history where faithful priests have exercised their ministry in violation of ordinary canonical norms? How should the clergy respond if the traditional Latin Mass is forbidden to them? What is the proper role of conscience, and how are liberal and conservative views of it defective? How is opposing the traditional liturgy equivalent to opposing the work of the Holy Spirit and harming the church's common good? Why are Catholics not required to live in blind obedience? Are Catholics who strive to preserve traditional beliefs and practices ever credibly denounced as disobedient? True Obedience in the Church offers clear, well-grounded answers to these burning questions.
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A comprehensive review of Mormon theology
- By Ken . on 02-15-15
By: Terryl L. Givens
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Atheist Delusions
- The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemies
- By: David Bentley Hart
- Narrated by: Ralph Morocco
- Length: 11 hrs and 50 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 255
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In this provocative book one of the most brilliant scholars of religion today dismantles distorted religious "histories" offered up by Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and other contemporary critics of religion and advocates of atheism. David Bentley Hart provides a bold correction of the New Atheists’s misrepresentations of the Christian past, countering their polemics with a brilliant account of Christianity and its message of human charity as the most revolutionary movement in all of Western history.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Conversion Experience.
- By Ted on 12-01-14
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In the Year of Our Lord
- Reflections on Twenty Centuries of Church History
- By: Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Narrated by: Sinclair B. Ferguson
- Length: 7 hrs and 32 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 54
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 49
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The story of the church is important for Christians to know, for it contains rich and uplifting stories of God’s dealings with His people. Dr. Sinclair B. Ferguson takes the listener on a tour of the Christian history, featuring stories and songs to give believers a sense of their place in God’s kingdom and to encourage them in their walk.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Missing one page
- By Amy Steeger on 08-01-22
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The Truth War
- Fighting for Certainty in an Age of Deception
- By: John MacArthur
- Narrated by: John MacArthur
- Length: 3 hrs and 43 mins
- Abridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 294
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 238
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Story5 out of 5 stars 230
Right now, Truth is under attack, and much is at stake. Christians are caught in the crossfire of alternative Christian histories, emerging faulty texts, and a cultural push to eliminate absolute Truth altogether. As a result, many churches and Christians have been deceived. Worse still, they propagate the deception that poses itself as Truth!
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5 out of 5 stars
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Pure Truth Necessary For the Times
- By Tracie on 09-27-08
By: John MacArthur
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The Spirit of the Disciplines
- Understanding How God Changes Lives
- By: Dallas Willard
- Narrated by: Robertson Dean
- Length: 9 hrs and 46 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 539
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 446
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 431
Dallas Willard, one of today's most brilliant Christian thinkers and the author of The Divine Conspiracy ( Christianity Today's 1999 Book of the Year), presents a way of living that enables ordinary men and women to enjoy the fruit of the Christian life.
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1 out of 5 stars
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Drivel
- By Amazon Customer on 07-09-18
By: Dallas Willard
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Knowing Christ Today
- Why We Can Trust Spiritual Knowledge
- By: Dallas Willard
- Narrated by: David Cochran Heath
- Length: 6 hrs and 54 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 114
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 84
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 83
At a time when popular atheism books are talking about the irrationality of believing in God, Willard makes a rigorous intellectual case for why it makes sense to believe in God and in Jesus, the Son.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Logical to a fault
- By cynthia on 05-13-10
By: Dallas Willard
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Leviathan
- or The Matter, Form, and Power of a Commonwealth, Ecclesiastical and Civil
- By: Thomas Hobbes
- Narrated by: James Adams
- Length: 23 hrs and 17 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 238
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 215
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Story4 out of 5 stars 213
The leviathan is the vast unity of the State. But how are unity, peace, and security to be attained? Hobbes’ answer is sovereignty, but the resurgence of interest today in Leviathan is due less to its answers than its methods: Hobbes sees politics as a science capable of the same axiomatic approach as geometry.
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4 out of 5 stars
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For PoliSci Graduate Students as a Readalong
- By deborah on 01-14-12
By: Thomas Hobbes
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Strangers in a Strange Land
- Living the Catholic Faith in a Post-Christian World
- By: Charles J. Chaput
- Narrated by: Jonathan Davis
- Length: 9 hrs and 17 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 362
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 319
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 311
From Charles J. Chaput, author of Living the Catholic Faith and Render unto Caesar, comes Strangers in a Strange Land, a fresh, urgent, and ultimately hopeful treatise on the state of Catholicism and Christianity in the United States. America today is different in kind, not just in degree, from the past. And this new reality is unlikely to be reversed.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Must Read
- By CFletcher on 07-04-17
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The Thrill of Orthodoxy
- Rediscovering the Adventure of Christian Faith
- By: Trevin Wax
- Narrated by: Trevin Wax
- Length: 6 hrs and 49 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 33
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 30
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 30
Every generation faces the temptation to wander from orthodoxy—to seek out the jolt that comes with false teaching, and to drift with cultural currents. And so every generation must be awakened again to the thrill of orthodoxy, and experience the astonishment that comes from stumbling afresh upon the electrifying paradoxes at the heart of the Christian faith. In The Thrill of Orthodoxy, Trevin Wax turns the tables on those who believe Christian teaching is narrow and outdated.
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4 out of 5 stars
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Obviously biased
- By Jamie on 05-14-24
By: Trevin Wax
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Reasons to Believe
- How to Understand, Defend, and Explain the Catholic Faith
- By: Scott Hahn
- Narrated by: Grover Gardner
- Length: 6 hrs and 9 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 715
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 594
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 598
In Reasons to Believe, Scott Hahn, a convert to Catholicism, explains the "how and why" of the Catholic faith - drawing from Scripture, his own struggles, and those of other converts, as well as from everyday life and even natural science. Hahn shows that reason and revelation, as well as nature and the supernatural, are not opposed to one another; rather, they offer complementary evidence that God exists. He is someone, and He has a personality, a personal style, that is discernable and knowable.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A Catholic for convition and tradition
- By benigno on 05-29-12
By: Scott Hahn
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You Shall Be as Gods
- A Radical Interpretation of the Old Testament and Its Tradition
- By: Erich Fromm
- Narrated by: Allan Robertson
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 68
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 50
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 50
The Old Testament is one of the most carefully studied books in the world’s history. It is also one of the most misunderstood. This founding text of the world’s three largest religions is also, Erich Fromm argues, an impressive radical humanist text. He sees the stories of mankind’s transition from divided clans to united brotherhood as a tribute to the human power to overcome. Filled with hopeful symbolism, You Shall Be as Gods shows how the Old Testament and its tradition is an inspiring ode to human potential.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Fascinating new ideas
- By D. Hansen on 11-24-16
By: Erich Fromm
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Things Worth Dying For
- Thoughts on a Life Worth Living
- By: Charles J. Chaput
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 6 hrs and 31 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 135
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 119
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Story5 out of 5 stars 116
With a balance of wisdom, candor, and scholarly rigor, the beloved archbishop emeritus of Philadelphia, Charles J. Chaput, traces the human experience from ancient times to today to find threads of connection in our yearning for God, love, honor, beauty, truth, and immortality. He looks at our modern appetite for consumption and individualism and offers a penetrating analysis of how we got here and how we can look to our roots and our faith to find purpose each day amid the noise of competing desires.
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1 out of 5 stars
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Low score for modernism
- By Joey on 05-17-21
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Turning Points
- Decisive Moments in the History of Christianity
- By: Mark A. Noll
- Narrated by: James Anderson Foster
- Length: 14 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 85
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 69
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Story5 out of 5 stars 69
In this popular introduction to church history, now in its third edition, Mark Noll isolates key events that provide a framework for understanding the history of Christianity. The book presents Christianity as a worldwide phenomenon rather than just a Western experience. Students in academic settings and church adult education contexts will benefit from this one-semester survey of Christian history.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Excellent, Brief Snippet’s
- By ejb on 01-06-23
By: Mark A. Noll
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My Religion
- By: Leo Tolstoy
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 6 hrs and 53 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 45
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 42
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 42
In My Religion, Leo Tolstoy accuses the church of hiding the true meaning of Jesus, which is to be found in the Sermon on the Mount and the call to resist evil. For Tolstoy, it is this command that has been most damaged by ecclesiastical interpretation. Tolstoy had not always been possessed of the religious ideas set forth in My Religion. For 35 years of his life, he was, in the proper acceptation of the word, a nihilist - not a revolutionary socialist but a man who believed in nothing.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Why Did We Not Read This In Bible College?
- By JustinBatzUS on 12-09-16
By: Leo Tolstoy
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Unbelievers
- An Emotional History of Doubt
- By: Alec Ryrie
- Narrated by: Andy Creswell
- Length: 8 hrs and 12 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 34
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 28
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 28
Looking back to the crisis of the Reformation and beyond, Unbelievers shows how, long before philosophers started to make the case for atheism, powerful cultural currents were challenging traditional faith. These tugged in different ways not only on celebrated thinkers such as Machiavelli, Montaigne, Hobbes, and Pascal, but on men and women at every level of society whose voices we hear through their diaries, letters, and court records. Ryrie traces the roots of atheism born of anger, a sentiment familiar to anyone who has ever cursed a corrupt priest, and of doubt born of anxiety.
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5 out of 5 stars
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important and neglected insight of atheism
- By John Glemby on 10-01-21
By: Alec Ryrie
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Anti-Judaism
- The Western Tradition
- By: David Nirenberg
- Narrated by: Robert Blumenfeld
- Length: 17 hrs and 25 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 50
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Performance4 out of 5 stars 37
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 37
This incisive history upends the complacency that confines anti-Judaism to the ideological extremes in the Western tradition. With deep learning and elegance, David Nirenberg shows how foundational anti-Judaism is to the history of the West. Questions of how we are Jewish and, more critically, how and why we are not have been churning within the Western imagination throughout its history. Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans; Christians and Muslims of every period; even the secularists of modernity have used Judaism in constructing their visions of the world.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Great Book: Terrible Narrator
- By LB on 12-29-16
By: David Nirenberg
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- Daniel Qualk
- 02-07-23
Must read
Quick summary of the current catholic situation and the perennial teachings of what it means to be truly obedient in accordance with men such as St Thomas Aquinas and the teaching body of the Church.
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- 09-09-24
Clarity
This cuts through the intentional ambiguity we get from many in hierarchy to exercise tyrannical control and helps the laity to be ever faithful to the Truth.
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