The Forgotten Preface
Surprising Insights on the Translation Philosophy of the King James Translators
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David K Martin
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Joshua Barzon
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No English translation of the Bible has had more influence on the world than the King James Version. But have you heard its forgotten preface? The Forgotten Preface aims to bring to light this overlooked historical document written by the King James translators. This book exposits their preface to bring to light what these men actually believed about inspiration, preservation, and translation.
In The Forgotten Preface, Joshua Barzon presents 10 theses based entirely on the King James translators’ words in their preface to the KJV. This book deals with what the King James translators believed (chapter one), an endorsement of modern Bible translations (chapter two), an evaluation of a particular modern translation as a case study (chapter three), and quotes from respected historic Christians who used and endorsed modern Bible translations (chapter four). A modern English translation of the preface is also included as an appendix at the end of the book.
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Winner of the John W. Kluge Prize for Lifetime Achievement in the Human Sciences, Jaroslav Pelikan is Professor Emeritus of history at Yale University and past president of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. This examination of the history of the Bible reflects half a century of study and research by the author. In Whose Bible Is It?, Pelikan traces the transformation of the Bible from its earliest oral traditions to its modern forms.
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2 out of 5 stars
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Too Verbose Not Enough "Big Picture" Bible History
- By Stephen on 07-05-11
By: Jaroslav Pelikan
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When God Spoke Greek
- The Septuagint and the Making of the Christian Bible
- By: Timothy Michael Law
- Narrated by: Stephen McLaughlin
- Length: 9 hrs and 24 mins
- Unabridged
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The Septuagint, the name given to the translation of the Hebrew scriptures between the third century BC and the second century AD, played a central role in the Bible's history. Many of the Hebrew scriptures were still evolving when they were translated into Greek, and these Greek translations, along with several new Greek writings, became Holy Scripture in the early Church. Yet gradually the Septuagint lost its place at the heart of Western Christianity.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A popular & much-needed intro to the Septuagint
- By Jacobus on 06-14-14
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Jesus on Trial
- A Lawyer Affirms the Truth of the Gospel
- By: David Limbaugh
- Narrated by: Walter Dixon
- Length: 12 hrs and 16 mins
- Unabridged
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In Jesus on Trial, New York Times bestselling author David Limbaugh applies his lifetime of legal experience to a unique new undertaking: making a case for the gospels as hard evidence of the life and work of Jesus Christ. Limbaugh, a practicing attorney and former professor of law, approaches the canonical gospels with the same level of scrutiny he would apply to any legal document and asks all the necessary questions about the story of Jesus....
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1 out of 5 stars
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What a disappointment
- By JB on 10-07-14
By: David Limbaugh
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The Mormon Mirage
- A Former Member Looks at the Mormon Church Today
- By: Latayne C. Scott
- Narrated by: Tamara Marston
- Length: 14 hrs and 52 mins
- Unabridged
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Three decades after leaving the Mormon faith, Latayne Colvett Scott looks back to her original journey out of Mormonism and the reasons why she left. Revised and updated, this third edition of The Mormon Mirage presents both a fascinating inside look at Mormonism and new and formidable evidence against its claims and teachings.
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1 out of 5 stars
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Keep away from it. Hate-Literature.
- By Amazon Customer on 04-13-12
By: Latayne C. Scott
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The Truth War
- Fighting for Certainty in an Age of Deception
- By: John MacArthur
- Narrated by: John MacArthur
- Length: 3 hrs and 43 mins
- Abridged
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Right now, Truth is under attack, and much is at stake. Christians are caught in the crossfire of alternative Christian histories, emerging faulty texts, and a cultural push to eliminate absolute Truth altogether. As a result, many churches and Christians have been deceived. Worse still, they propagate the deception that poses itself as Truth!
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5 out of 5 stars
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Pure Truth Necessary For the Times
- By Tracie on 09-27-08
By: John MacArthur
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Anti-Judaism
- The Western Tradition
- By: David Nirenberg
- Narrated by: Robert Blumenfeld
- Length: 17 hrs and 25 mins
- Unabridged
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This incisive history upends the complacency that confines anti-Judaism to the ideological extremes in the Western tradition. With deep learning and elegance, David Nirenberg shows how foundational anti-Judaism is to the history of the West. Questions of how we are Jewish and, more critically, how and why we are not have been churning within the Western imagination throughout its history. Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans; Christians and Muslims of every period; even the secularists of modernity have used Judaism in constructing their visions of the world.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Great Book: Terrible Narrator
- By LB on 12-29-16
By: David Nirenberg
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Understanding the Koran
- A Quick Christian Guide to the Muslim Holy Book
- By: Mateen Elass
- Narrated by: Don Reed
- Length: 5 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 97
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A quick non-technical introduction to the Koran designed to help Christians understand a hidden book revered by 1.3 billion Muslims, covering the background on its writing, a summary of its contents, a perspective on how it’s used and viewed by Muslims, a comparison of differences and similarities to the Bible, and some suggestions on how it should and should not be used in conversations with Muslims.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Favors Christianity
- By Dianne on 12-18-15
By: Mateen Elass
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The First Paul
- Reclaiming the Radical Visionary Behind the Church's Conservative Icon
- By: Marcus J. Borg, John Dominic Crossan
- Narrated by: Mel Foster
- Length: 8 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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Paul is second only to Jesus as the most important person in the birth of Christianity, and yet he continues to be controversial, even among Christians. How could the letters of Paul be used both to inspire radical grace and to endorse systems of oppression - condoning slavery, subordinating women, condemning homosexual behavior? Borg and Crossan use the best of biblical and historical scholarship to explain the reasons for Paul's mixed reputation and reveal to us what scholars have known for decades: The later letters of Paul were created by the early church to dilute Paul's message.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Liberal Paul
- By Kayla on 05-12-20
By: Marcus J. Borg, and others
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You Shall Be as Gods
- A Radical Interpretation of the Old Testament and Its Tradition
- By: Erich Fromm
- Narrated by: Allan Robertson
- Length: 8 hrs and 13 mins
- Unabridged
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The Old Testament is one of the most carefully studied books in the world’s history. It is also one of the most misunderstood. This founding text of the world’s three largest religions is also, Erich Fromm argues, an impressive radical humanist text. He sees the stories of mankind’s transition from divided clans to united brotherhood as a tribute to the human power to overcome. Filled with hopeful symbolism, You Shall Be as Gods shows how the Old Testament and its tradition is an inspiring ode to human potential.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Fascinating new ideas
- By D. Hansen on 11-24-16
By: Erich Fromm
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Aquinas at Prayer
- The Bible, Mysticism and Poetry
- By: Paul Murray OP
- Narrated by: Paul Murray OP
- Length: 9 hrs and 32 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 78
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Aquinas at Prayer draws attention to important aspects of Aquinas's life and work which have been all too often overlooked or forgotten. Today Aquinas is almost exclusively regarded as an outstanding scholastic philosopher and theologian. But what is little known is that Aquinas was, first and last, a teacher of the Bible - a Master of the Sacred Page. Moreover there is a distinctly mystical character to his theology. And, as a writer, he was not only a poet but, arguably, the greatest Latin poet of the Middle Ages.
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5 out of 5 stars
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The Veil of is Torn.... he is indeed a Saint
- By Jj on 02-26-15
By: Paul Murray OP
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Reasons to Believe
- How to Understand, Defend, and Explain the Catholic Faith
- By: Scott Hahn
- Narrated by: Grover Gardner
- Length: 6 hrs and 9 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 715
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In Reasons to Believe, Scott Hahn, a convert to Catholicism, explains the "how and why" of the Catholic faith - drawing from Scripture, his own struggles, and those of other converts, as well as from everyday life and even natural science. Hahn shows that reason and revelation, as well as nature and the supernatural, are not opposed to one another; rather, they offer complementary evidence that God exists. He is someone, and He has a personality, a personal style, that is discernable and knowable.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A Catholic for convition and tradition
- By benigno on 05-29-12
By: Scott Hahn
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Wrestling the Angel
- The Foundations of Mormon Thought: Cosmos, God, Humanity
- By: Terryl L. Givens
- Narrated by: B.J. Harrison
- Length: 17 hrs and 18 mins
- Unabridged
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In this first volume of his magisterial study of the foundations of Mormon thought and practice, Terryl L. Givens offers a sweeping account of Mormon belief from its founding to the present day. Situating the relatively new movement in the context of the Christian tradition, he reveals that Mormonism continues to change and grow.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A comprehensive review of Mormon theology
- By Ken . on 02-15-15
By: Terryl L. Givens
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Hand in Hand
- The Beauty of God's Sovereignty and Meaningful Human Choice
- By: Randy Alcorn
- Narrated by: Randy Alcorn
- Length: 7 hrs and 5 mins
- Unabridged
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If God is sovereign, how can I be free to choose? But if God is not sovereign, how can he be God? Is it possible to reconcile God's sovereignty with human choice? This is one of the most perplexing theological questions. It's also one of the most personal. In Hand in Hand, Randy Alcorn says that the traditional approach to this debate has often diminished our trust in God and his purposes. Instead of making a one-sided argument from select verses, Alcorn examines the question in light of all Scripture.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Best reconciliation of the subject ever heard
- By Dan on 02-12-18
By: Randy Alcorn
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The Cheese and the Worms
- The Cosmos of a Sixteenth-Century Miller
- By: Carlo Ginzburg, Anne C. Tedeschi - translator, John Tedeschi - translator
- Narrated by: P.J. Ochlan
- Length: 7 hrs and 57 mins
- Unabridged
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The Cheese and the Worms is an incisive study of popular culture in the 16th century as seen through the eyes of one man, the miller known as Menocchio, who was accused of heresy during the Inquisition and sentenced to death. Carlo Ginzburg uses the trial records to illustrate the religious and social conflicts of the society in which Menocchio lived.
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5 out of 5 stars
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entertaining history
- By Preston Moore on 10-02-19
By: Carlo Ginzburg, and others
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Not the Impossible Faith
- By: Richard Carrier
- Narrated by: Richard Carrier
- Length: 12 hrs and 49 mins
- Unabridged
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Written with occasional humor and an easy style, and thoroughly referenced, with many entertaining "gotcha!" moments, Not the Impossible Faith is a must-listen for anyone interested in the origins of Christianity. Richard Carrier, PhD, is an expert in the history of the ancient world and a critic of Christian attempts to distort history in defense of their faith.
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1 out of 5 stars
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Bloody awful audiobook...
- By Amazon Customer on 10-23-13
By: Richard Carrier
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- ronald w sandifer jr.
- 11-21-23
Great book and great audiobook!
read the book a while back and decided to re-familiarize myself with it again. So I listened to the audiobook. The reader does a great job with pace so he isn't moving faster than my reasoning in my mind can move lol. the premise of the book is simple, he uses the preface to the reader from the King James translators themselves to argue against the kjv only view. Not done in a negative argumentative way. Take point after point that KJVO people argue and uses the KJV translators own words against those arguments. Even if your mind won't be changed on KVJ only'ism knowing what's in the preface itself is worth the book.
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- Kindle Customer
- 02-06-23
Excellent Book!
This is the most clear and concise answer to the KJV-Only position. I would highly recommend this as a primer for further study.
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- Joan Cubbage
- 11-18-24
the sincerity of the writer
I Like the Way It Was Written fair in balanced it kept my attention at all times
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- jake
- 01-24-23
amazing insight on the KJV translators
this book explains the beliefs of the KJV translators by walking through the preface they wrote to the readers of their translation
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- Martyn Chamberlin
- 06-09-23
Very helpful
Really appreciate the brevity and accessibility of this work. All of it is good, but the fourth section on historic Christians who endorsed modern translations was pure gold. Good digging! I’ve bought a few copies to give to friends. This preface and the understanding underlying it is little known. Few.
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