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The Uplift Saga, Book 1
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George Wilson
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David Brin
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For nearly a billion years, every known sentient species in the universe has been the result of genetic and cultural guidance - or "uplifting" - by a previously uplifted patron race. Then humans are discovered. Having already uplifted chimps and dolphins, humanity clearly qualifies as an intelligent species, but did they actually evolve their own intelligence, or did some mysterious patron race begin the process, then suddenly abandon Earth? The answer to this mystery might be as close as our own sun, but it will take a daring dive into its fiery interior to know for sure.
Sundiver begins David Brin's thoughtful, exhilarating exploration of a future filled with an imaginative array of strange alien races, dazzling scientific achievements, and age-old enigmas.
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Mimic and the Space Engineer Omnibus
- Space Shifter Chronicles, Books 1-3
- De: James David Victor
- Narrado por: Nick Tecosky
- Duración: 7 h y 45 m
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Higgens has the best job in the galaxy. Except for the fact that he’s technically a janitor on a galactic mining vessel. When he discovers an unknown alien species, his world gets turned upside down. He will have to find unlikely allies if he is going to save his new friend and help her build a new home. The Mimic and the Space Engineer boxed set contains the first three books in the Space Shifter Chronicles. If you like fast-paced space adventures with engaging, and quirky, characters, you will love Higgens, Mimic, and their adventures in space.
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Interesting premise, but I've read better
- De Reviewer en 12-05-20
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Braking Day
- De: Adam Oyebanji
- Narrado por: Ariyan Kassam
- Duración: 15 h y 8 m
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It's been over a century since three generation ships escaped an Earth dominated by artificial intelligence in pursuit of a life on a distant planet orbiting Tau Ceti. Now, it’s nearly Braking Day, when the ships will begin their long-awaited descent to their new home. Born on the lower decks of the Archimedes, Ravi Macleod is an engineer-in-training, set to be the first of his family to become an officer in the stratified hierarchy aboard the ship. While on a routine inspection, Ravi sees the impossible: a young woman floating, helmetless, out in space.
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Engaging and inventive sci-fi
- De Keith D. en 11-09-23
De: Adam Oyebanji
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This Alien Shore
- Outworlds, Book 1
- De: C. S. Friedman
- Narrado por: Kathleen McInerney
- Duración: 19 h y 41 m
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It is the second stage of human colonization - the first age, humanity's initial attempt to people the stars, ended in disaster when it was discovered that Earth's original superluminal drive did permanent genetic damage to all who used it - mutating Earth's far-flung colonists in mind and body. Now, one of Earth's first colonies has given humanity back the stars, but at a high price - a monopoly over all human commerce.
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Another excellent novel by C.S. Friedman!
- De KH en 09-06-12
De: C. S. Friedman
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Prelude to Extinction
- Xenophobia Series, Book 1
- De: Andreas Karpf
- Narrado por: Jonathan Davis
- Duración: 17 h y 8 m
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When Jack Harrison climbed down the short ladder from the airlock and stepped onto the debris covered soil, the ground crackled with the sound of dried leaves and twigs.
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Don MUST Die
- De SteveK en 02-07-21
De: Andreas Karpf
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To Be Taught, If Fortunate
- De: Becky Chambers
- Narrado por: Brittany Pressley
- Duración: 4 h y 30 m
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At the turn of the 22nd century, scientists make a breakthrough in human spaceflight. Through a revolutionary method known as somaforming, astronauts can survive in hostile environments off Earth using synthetic biological supplementations. With the fragility of the body no longer a limiting factor, human beings are at last able to journey to neighboring exoplanets long known to harbor life. A team of these explorers, Ariadne O’Neill and her three crewmates, are hard at work in a planetary system 15 light-years from Sol, on a mission to ecologically survey four habitable worlds.
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"Gay & Lesbian"?!? This is solid Sci-Fi
- De Jennifer en 09-16-19
De: Becky Chambers
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Fleet of Worlds
- 200 Years Before the Discovery of the Ringworld
- De: Larry Niven, Edward M. Lerner
- Narrado por: Tom Weiner
- Duración: 9 h y 34 m
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Fleet of Worlds takes a closer look at Human-Puppeteer (Citizen) relations and the events leading up to Niven's first Ringworld novel. Kirsten Quinn-Kovacks is among the best and brightest of her people. She gratefully serves the gentle race that rescued her ancestors from a dying starship, gave them a world, and nurtures them still. If only the Citizens knew where Kirsten's people came from.
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Hurrah!
- De Bruce en 01-25-08
De: Larry Niven, y otros
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The Event
- De: Nathan Hystad
- Narrado por: Luke Daniels
- Duración: 6 h y 33 m
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Cities all around the world reported strange alien vessels descending. Some saw them as the heralds of a new age; others fired everything they had at them. All were taken as the beams lashed down and drew them into the sky. Dean was left behind, seemingly the last man on Earth. A trail of clues left by his dead wife guides Dean on a perilous journey across America and beyond to learn the truth behind the mysterious ships and save humanity from its doom.
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Did not inspire me to get the next book.
- De MD en 12-13-18
De: Nathan Hystad
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The Gordian Protocol
- The Gordian Protocol, Book 1
- De: David Weber, Jacob Holo
- Narrado por: Gabriel Vaughan
- Duración: 18 h y 53 m
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Doctor Benjamin Schröder was far from a man of action. In fact, he was a history teacher - chairman of the Castle Rock University history department - and if his life wasn't perfect, it was close. Until, that is the discussion of his star student Elzbietá Abramowski's dissertation on Operation Oz, the Pacific Allies' invasion of Vladivostok, was brutally interrupted. The psychotic episode that turned his entire world upside down struck with absolutely no warning, and it was more terrifying than anything he should have been able to imagine.
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Trash
- De E en 05-08-19
De: David Weber, y otros
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Vigilante
- De: Michael Anderle, Natalie Grey
- Narrado por: Chris Andrew Ciulla
- Duración: 6 h y 52 m
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When a mine owner thinks that he's above the law and continues to utilize slave labor to keep his mines running, Barnabas, a former Ranger One, must fight for justice.
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If I could I would give 10 stars..
- De Trish R. en 08-05-21
De: Michael Anderle, y otros
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Will Save the Galaxy for Food
- De: Yahtzee Croshaw
- Narrado por: Yahtzee Croshaw
- Duración: 10 h y 20 m
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Space travel just isn't what it used to be. With the invention of quantum teleportation, space heroes aren't needed anymore. When one particularly unlucky ex-adventurer masquerades as famous pilot and hate figure Jacques McKeown, he's sucked into an ever-deepening corporate and political intrigue. Between space pirates, adorable deadly creatures, and a missing fortune in royalties, saving the universe was never this difficult!
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Great
- De K. F. en 03-09-17
De: Yahtzee Croshaw
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Brightness Reef
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Persecuted refugees from six separate alien races have migrated to the idyllic planet Jijo. And despite their incredible diversity, the inhabitants live together in blissful harmony. However, settlement on Jijo is illegal - and it's only a matter of time before the residents of this forbidden paradise are discovered by the galactic powers-that-be.
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Hard Core Sci-Fi at it's best!
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The Practice Effect
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Physicist Dennis Nuel was the first human to probe the strange realms called anomaly worlds - alternate universes where the laws of science were unpredictably changed. But the world Dennis discovered seemed almost like our own - with one perplexing difference. To his astonishment, he was hailed as a wizard and found himself fighting beside a beautiful woman with strange powers against a mysterious warlord as he struggles to solve the riddle of this baffling world.
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This book was doomed to fail
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Three Cheers for the Surveillance Society
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Surveillance. It is used by every tyranny to lock in place an uneven arrangement of power. When the mighty know all about you but common folk know little in reverse, then without accountability you can only have despotism, as shown by 6,000 years of recorded history. But new technologies do not have to lock in perpetual Big Brother. The spread of tools like cheap cameras and instant sharing might lead to the antidote against Big Brother. That is, if we learn the lessons taught by both history and science.
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An essay by the man who wrote "Earth" decades ago
- De T. Anderson en 08-05-18
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Existence
- De: David Brin
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Gerald Livingston is an orbital garbage collector. For a hundred years, people have been abandoning things in space, and someone has to clean it up. But there’s something spinning a little bit higher than he expects, something that isn’t on the decades’ old orbital maps. An hour after he grabs it and brings it in, rumors fill Earth’s infomesh about an "alien artifact".
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Will its universe envelop you?
- De Andreas Henriksson en 07-20-13
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Earth
- De: David Brin
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The long-awaited new novel by the award-winning, best-selling author of Startide Rising and The Uplift War- an epic novel set 50 years from tomorrow, a carefully-reasoned, scientifically faithful tale of the fate of our world.
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David has an inside line on the future
- De Sean Dustman en 08-21-12
De: David Brin
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Proxima: Book 1
- De: Stephen Baxter
- Narrado por: Kyle McCarley
- Duración: 17 h y 52 m
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The very far future: The galaxy is a drifting wreck of black holes, neutron stars, and chill white dwarfs. The age of star formation is long past. Yet there is life here, feeding off the energies of the stellar remnants, and there is mind, a tremendous galaxy-spanning intelligence each of whose thoughts lasts a hundred thousand years. And this mind cradles memories of a long-gone age when a more compact universe was full of light... The 27th century: Proxima Centauri, an undistinguished red dwarf star, is the nearest star to our sun. How would it be to live on such a world?
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No Sense of Conclusion
- De Lisa Davidson en 04-24-16
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Brightness Reef
- The Uplift Trilogy, Book 1
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: George Wilson
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Persecuted refugees from six separate alien races have migrated to the idyllic planet Jijo. And despite their incredible diversity, the inhabitants live together in blissful harmony. However, settlement on Jijo is illegal - and it's only a matter of time before the residents of this forbidden paradise are discovered by the galactic powers-that-be.
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Hard Core Sci-Fi at it's best!
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The Practice Effect
- De: David Brin
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Physicist Dennis Nuel was the first human to probe the strange realms called anomaly worlds - alternate universes where the laws of science were unpredictably changed. But the world Dennis discovered seemed almost like our own - with one perplexing difference. To his astonishment, he was hailed as a wizard and found himself fighting beside a beautiful woman with strange powers against a mysterious warlord as he struggles to solve the riddle of this baffling world.
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This book was doomed to fail
- De Joshua en 11-16-12
De: David Brin
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Three Cheers for the Surveillance Society
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: David Brin
- Duración: 39 m
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Surveillance. It is used by every tyranny to lock in place an uneven arrangement of power. When the mighty know all about you but common folk know little in reverse, then without accountability you can only have despotism, as shown by 6,000 years of recorded history. But new technologies do not have to lock in perpetual Big Brother. The spread of tools like cheap cameras and instant sharing might lead to the antidote against Big Brother. That is, if we learn the lessons taught by both history and science.
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An essay by the man who wrote "Earth" decades ago
- De T. Anderson en 08-05-18
De: David Brin
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Existence
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: Kevin T. Collins, Robin Miles, L. J. Ganser
- Duración: 32 h y 25 m
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Gerald Livingston is an orbital garbage collector. For a hundred years, people have been abandoning things in space, and someone has to clean it up. But there’s something spinning a little bit higher than he expects, something that isn’t on the decades’ old orbital maps. An hour after he grabs it and brings it in, rumors fill Earth’s infomesh about an "alien artifact".
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Will its universe envelop you?
- De Andreas Henriksson en 07-20-13
De: David Brin
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Earth
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: David DeVries, Kristin Kalbli
- Duración: 26 h y 5 m
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The long-awaited new novel by the award-winning, best-selling author of Startide Rising and The Uplift War- an epic novel set 50 years from tomorrow, a carefully-reasoned, scientifically faithful tale of the fate of our world.
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David has an inside line on the future
- De Sean Dustman en 08-21-12
De: David Brin
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Proxima: Book 1
- De: Stephen Baxter
- Narrado por: Kyle McCarley
- Duración: 17 h y 52 m
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The very far future: The galaxy is a drifting wreck of black holes, neutron stars, and chill white dwarfs. The age of star formation is long past. Yet there is life here, feeding off the energies of the stellar remnants, and there is mind, a tremendous galaxy-spanning intelligence each of whose thoughts lasts a hundred thousand years. And this mind cradles memories of a long-gone age when a more compact universe was full of light... The 27th century: Proxima Centauri, an undistinguished red dwarf star, is the nearest star to our sun. How would it be to live on such a world?
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No Sense of Conclusion
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To Your Scattered Bodies Go, Riverworld Saga, Book 1
- De: Philip José Farmer
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Along with a remarkable group of compatriots, including Alice Liddell Hargreaves (the Victorian girl who was the inspiration for Alice in Wonderland), an English-speaking Neanderthal, a WWII Holocaust survivor, and a wise extraterrestrial, Burton sets sail on the magnificent river. His mission: to confront humankind's mysterious benefactors, and learn the true purpose—innocent or evil—of the Riverworld....
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Great concept, dated writing.
- De Battaglia en 08-04-11
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Timescape
- De: Gregory Benford
- Narrado por: Simon Prebble, Pete Bradbury
- Duración: 15 h y 39 m
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In a future wracked by environmental catastrophe and social instability, physicist John Renfrew devises a longshot plan to use tachyons - strange, time-traveling particles - to send a warning to the past. In 1962, Gordon Bernstein, a California researcher, gets Renfrew's message as a strange pattern of interference in an experiment he's conducting.
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An enjoyable book with problems
- De Mike Schultz en 10-26-08
De: Gregory Benford
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Heart of the Comet
- De: Gregory Benford, David Brin
- Narrado por: P. J. Ochlan, Stefan Rudnicki, Gabrielle de Cuir
- Duración: 21 h y 24 m
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Prescient and scientifically accurate, Heart of the Comet is known as one of the great hard SF novels of the 1980s. First published in 1986, it tells the story of an ambitious manned mission to visit Halley's Comet, alter its orbit, and mine it for resources. But all too soon, native cells - that might once have brought life to Earth - begin colonizing the colonists. As factions battle over the comet's future - and that of Earth - only love, courage, and ingenuity can avert disaster and spark a new human destiny.
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Challenging hard sci-fi with some characterization
- De William Tanksley, Jr. en 08-06-18
De: Gregory Benford, y otros
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Fallen Dragon
- De: Peter F. Hamilton
- Narrado por: John Lee
- Duración: 26 h y 31 m
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In the distant future, corporations have become sustainable communities with their own militaries, and corporate goals have essentially replaced political ideology. On a youthful, rebellious impulse, Lawrence joined the military of a corporation that he now recognizes to be ruthless and exploitative. His only hope for escape is to earn enough money to buy his place in a better corporation.
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Possibly my new favorite Hamilton novel
- De Samuel en 04-08-17
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The Postman
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: Kevin Kenerly
- Duración: 9 h y 55 m
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He was a survivor - a wanderer who traded tales for food and shelter in the dark and savage aftermath of a devastating war. Fate touches him one chill winter’s day when he borrows the jacket of a long-dead postal worker to protect himself from the cold. The old, worn uniform still has power as a symbol of hope, and with it he begins to weave his greatest tale, of a nation on the road to recovery. This is the story of a lie that became the most powerful kind of truth.
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Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night
- De Ed Pegg Jr en 12-09-20
De: David Brin
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Kiln People
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: Andy Caploe
- Duración: 23 h y 27 m
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In a perilous future where disposable duplicate bodies fulfill every legal and illicit whim of their decadent masters, life is cheap. No one knows that better than Albert Morris, a brash investigator with a knack for trouble, who has sent his own duplicates into deadly peril more times than he cares to remember. But when Morris takes on a ring of bootleggers making illegal copies of a famous actress, he stumbles upon a secret so explosive it has incited open warfare on the streets of Dittotown.
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Interesting Premise, Disappointing Execution
- De Michael en 07-25-13
De: David Brin
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Alliance Space
- Alliance-Union Universe Series
- De: C. J. Cherryh
- Narrado por: Daniel Thomas May
- Duración: 21 h y 51 m
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This omnibus volume contains two Alliance-Union novels, Merchanter's Luck and Forty Thousand in Gehenna.
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Loved the books
- De willaim moomaw en 04-23-21
De: C. J. Cherryh
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Out in the Cold
- C.O.R.P.S.E., Book 1
- De: Michael Anderle
- Narrado por: Raechel Wong
- Duración: 6 h y 43 m
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What happens when the world's deadliest operative is activated with no target to take out? Tina Hutchinson was a member of the black ops team known as C.O.R.P.S.E.-until she was killed. But her death triggered a secret program, activating an android that was trained to kill, yet is now confused about its mission.
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Awesome
- De Zero Calvin en 01-07-25
De: Michael Anderle
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Glory Season
- De: David Brin
- Narrado por: Claire Christie
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Young Maia is fast approaching a turning point in her life. As a half-caste var, she must leave the clan home of her privileged half-sisters and seek her fortune in the world. With her twin sister, Leie, she searches the docks of Port Sanger for an apprenticeship aboard the vessels that sail the trade routes of the Stratoin oceans. On her far-reaching, perilous journey of discovery, Maia will endure hardship and hunger, imprisonment and loneliness, bloody battles with pirates and separation from her twin.
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Not bad, but definitely not Brin at his best.
- De Steven en 11-17-15
De: David Brin
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Blood Music
- De: Greg Bear
- Narrado por: George Guidall
- Duración: 10 h y 49 m
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An amazing breakthrough in genetic engineering made by Vergil Ulam is considered too dangerous for further research, but rather than destroy his work, he injects himself with his creation and walks out of his lab, unaware of just how his actions will change the world.
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THOUGHT UNIVERSE
- De Jim "The Impatient" en 08-01-15
De: Greg Bear
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Red Mars
- De: Kim Stanley Robinson
- Narrado por: Richard Ferrone
- Duración: 23 h y 51 m
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Winner of the Nebula Award for Best Novel, Red Mars is the first book in Kim Stanley Robinson's best-selling trilogy. Red Mars is praised by scientists for its detailed visions of future technology. It is also hailed by authors and critics for its vivid characters and dramatic conflicts.
For centuries, the red planet has enticed the people of Earth. Now an international group of scientists has colonized Mars. Leaving Earth forever, these 100 people have traveled nine months to reach their new home. This is the remarkable story of the world they create - and the hidden power struggles of those who want to control it.
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very long
- De Dana en 07-17-08
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Valor's Choice
- De: Tanya Huff
- Narrado por: Marguerite Gavin
- Duración: 9 h y 39 m
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In the distant future, humans and several other races have been granted membership in the Confederation - at a price. They must act as soldier/protectors of the far more civilized races who have long since turned away from war.
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Military Future Past
- De Dave H en 04-21-13
De: Tanya Huff
Lo que los oyentes dicen sobre Sundiver
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- David
- 04-11-08
The very best!
If you enjoy AC Clarke, Brim will thrill you. One of the greatest true science fiction writers I have read in the last 25 years.
His awards through the years are ssoooo well deserved. The more you are aquainted with real science, the more you will love Brim's works!
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- Colin
- 06-10-13
Not what I thought it was but good
Well let me first say that this wasn't what I expected it to be like, it was good contained some surprises and overall was worthy of reading.
There are some things about this story that are a little unexplained or maybe poorly explained, you can understand whats happening but its not until the end that you really get what is going on and then there are more questions.
So there are these "things" in the sun that people have seen when going into the surface of the sun doing observations for science. The Aliens don't understand this because there is a "galactic library" that holds everything one needs to know so there is no reason to do research like that anymore but being the suborn Humans we are we are doing it anyways - well things are seen in there that look to be sentient life and its the research vessel that goes into the sun to research these things and report back because the "galactic library" doesn't have anything on what they could be so some suspect that they have been lied to and the copy of the library that we humans have is not complete or maybe deliberately missing stuff
If you know who Erich Von Daniken is and his book from 1986 called "Chariots of the Gods" and latter works you know about the "uplift theory" where by aliens have "uplifted" humans in the distant past that's why we cant find the so called "missing link" in the evolutionary tract and why we have jumped so far in such a short time, this is sorta the concept of the books back story.
In this book we Humans have uplifted dolphins and chimps to full sentient as in able to think like a human can or at least at the same intellectual level which results in chimps and dolphins talking to humans and helping them do tasks like any other human would except for dolphins can do underwater stuff better - its a cool concept and according to the galactic library almost every single race was "uplifted" by another race leading all the way back to the start with some group of races that isn't explained completely , but humans don't seem to have a "up-lifter" which is a little strange to many aliens
The Humans here think that maybe the beings in the sun could actually be the uplifters of humanity, and will the Aliens help them to understand it or maybe do something even worse?
There isn't much about this book I didn't like other than it was missing some better explanations and maybe a nice pre-story for a chapter or so to get you into the world thats created but it was good, I am going on to the next book so check my reviews for that one to see if it is as good as this one was
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- Erick
- 07-15-17
meh
not that great not once did i think this is awesome or worth the purchase.
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- Martin the Engineer
- 10-22-16
Good in a Series of Greats
Not as good as Startide Rising, but very comparable. See my review for the aforementioned for more detail.
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- Ramon B. Cano
- 09-19-16
Interesting premise for the world - a little borin
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The setup and premise of this series of books is pretty good But this particular book was often pretty boring. It had some good part at the end but overall it was hard to get through. Glad I listened to it at 1.25X. I heard the next book in the series is much better. Probably be a while until I actually read it though - still not recovered from this books slow pacing.
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- Jean Carrieres
- 08-18-15
Great Story!
Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?
I'd recommend this book to anyone who likes hard scifi, with credible aliens and strong plots. David Brin doesn't hold your hand or explain his jokes--he treats you as an intelligent reader, capable of figuring out by yourself the humor of a situation. A rare thing in SF.
What other book might you compare Sundiver to and why?
There are elements of Sundiver (and of the whold Uplift trilogy) that remind me of Asimov's Foundation series, in the sense that a "band of curious and investigative humans" are set against a backdrop of complacency and intellectual conformism. Otherwise, it's hard to compare Brin's books to anyone else's--few authors are as lucidly optimistic about the human race and its future.
Which scene was your favorite?
The story is riveting and the premise intriguing: there's a spaceship, and it dives into the sun, which humans suspect is haunted. I may not have a specific favorite scene, but let's not kid around, here--this by itself is a fascinating and gripping premise.
Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?
Overall, while I may not have cried or laughed while listening to this, the whole "universe" and backdrop kept me interested from beginning to end. The whole status of the human race as (potentially) a self-evolved race (rather than being uplifted) is a very clever concept and made me feel oddly proud of my race and its achievements. This is something very rare in modern SF, where human-bashing is the norm. Brin stands against that and offers a refreshing view of ourselves.
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- Chase Boday
- 02-01-19
Great story, well told
This imaginative story is fantastic. I couldn’t stop listening and the reader is very expressive and good at telling the story.
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- Amazon Customer
- 12-29-17
I had forgotten just how good Brin is.
I bought all of the Uplift books from the Science Fiction book club a very long time ago.
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- Jon
- 09-04-18
i read the books out of order. lol.
listened to the 2nd book first, 3rd book 2nd; and found this one wonderful! Enjoy
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- mDiff
- 08-28-24
Had trouble following
I'm usually a fan of classic sci-fi, but this just didn't hit rught. I had trouble paying attention (rare for me) or keeping the plot. Also, a lot of weird-yet-dated sexism that seems par for the time period written. Many interesting concepts and I heard it gets better after book 1, so I might continue.
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