Sons of Kolchak
A Company Commander During the Vietnam Tet Offensive of 1968 Tells the Story of His Men's Raw Courage and Valor
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Shawn Compton
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I commanded an infantry company during the Vietnam Tet Offensive of 1968. I got to see the magnificence of the human spirit as my men triumphed over incredible adversity. This is a story that must be told. We are a special country with a special destiny. My men showed me the way.
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- By: Chuck Gross
- Narrated by: Gerry Burke
- Length: 7 hrs and 5 mins
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Rattler One-Seven puts you in the helicopter seat, to see the war in Vietnam through the eyes of an inexperienced pilot as he transforms himself into a seasoned combat veteran. Soon after the war, Gross wrote down his adventures, while his memory was still fresh with the events. Rattler One-Seven (his call sign) is written as he experienced it, using these notes along with letters written home to accurately preserve the mindset he had while in Vietnam.
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One of the Best Helicopter books I've listened to!
- By Chad on 02-12-14
By: Chuck Gross
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SOG Medic
- Stories from Vietnam and Over the Fence
- By: Joe Parnar, Robert Dumont
- Narrated by: Arthur Flavell
- Length: 7 hrs and 34 mins
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In the years since the Vietnam War, the elite unit known as SOG has spawned many myths, legends, and war stories. Special Forces medic Joe Parnar served with SOG during 1968 in FOB2/CCC near the tri-border area that gave them access to the forbidden areas of Laos and Cambodia. Parnar recounts his time with the recon men of this highly classified unit, as his job involved a unique combination of soldiering and lifesaving.
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Medics in Vietnam war
- By William R. Todd-Mancillas (Name includes hyphen and capitalized M). on 11-27-19
By: Joe Parnar, and others
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Chasing Understanding in the Jungles of Vietnam
- My Year as a Black Scarf
- By: Douglas Beed
- Narrated by: Malcolm Hillgartner
- Length: 6 hrs and 5 mins
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Author Doug Beed relates his memories of the men and missions during his year (1968-69) as a combat soldier with the First Infantry Division in Vietnam. After two years of college he couldn't afford to continue, so he was forced to relinquish his student deferment and enter the draft. He tried various strategies to get a non-combat job; nevertheless, he ended up in the infantry and was assigned to Vietnam. The stories in this book depict the year Doug spent in Alpha Company, where he spent days on patrols finding and killing North Vietnamese soldiers.
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Interesting
- By One guy's opinion on 11-09-23
By: Douglas Beed
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LRRP Company Command
- The Cav's LRP / Rangers in Vietnam, 1968 - 1969
- By: Kregg P.J. Jorgenson
- Narrated by: Don Leslie
- Length: 2 hrs and 7 mins
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The new commander of the Company E, 52d Infantry LRRPs, Capt. George Paccerelli, was tough, but the men's new AO was brutal. Former LRRP Kregg Jorgenson provides a gripping account of ordinary men with extraordinary courage and heroism.
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LRRP Company Command.
- By Charles on 12-27-09
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Rock Force
- The American Paratroopers Who Took Back Corregidor and Exacted MacArthur's Revenge on Japan
- By: Kevin Maurer
- Narrated by: Stephen Graybill
- Length: 7 hrs and 44 mins
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From the number-one New York Times best-selling coauthor of No Easy Day comes a thrilling World War II story of the American airborne soldiers who captured a Japanese-held island fortress.
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The Rock
- By Richard Cassens on 09-15-21
By: Kevin Maurer
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We Dared to Win
- The SAS in Rhodesia
- By: Hannes Wessels, Andre Scheepers - with
- Narrated by: Roger Clark
- Length: 10 hrs and 48 mins
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Andre Scheepers grew up on a farm in Rhodesia, learning about the bush from his African childhood friends, before joining the army. A quiet, introspective thinker, Andre started out as a trooper in the SAS before being commissioned into the Rhodesian Light Infantry Commandos, where he was engaged in fireforce combat operations. He then rejoined the SAS. Andre writes vividly about his experiences, his emotions, and his state of mind during the war, and reflects candidly on what he learned and how war has shaped his life since.
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The tragic story behind the story
- By wade on 02-07-21
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Death in the A Shau Valley
- L Company LRRPs in Vietnam, 1969-1970
- By: Larry Chambers
- Narrated by: Joe Barrett
- Length: 6 hrs and 47 mins
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Larry Chambers was still new to Vietnam in early 1969 when the LRRPs of the 101st Airborne Division became L Company, 75th (Rangers). But his unit's mission stayed the same: act as the eyes and ears of the 101st deep in the dreaded A Shau Valley - where the NVA ruled. Relentless thick fog frequently made fighter bombers useless in the A Shau, and the enemy had furnished the nearby mountaintops with antiaircraft machine guns to protect the massive trail network that snaked through it. So, outgunned, outmanned, and unsupported, the teams of L Company executed hundreds of courageous missions.
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Engaging Listen
- By kutzkai on 01-26-23
By: Larry Chambers
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Marine!
- The Life of Chesty Puller
- By: Burke Davis
- Narrated by: Bill Thatcher
- Length: 12 hrs and 14 mins
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In the glorious chronicles of the US Marine Corps, no name is more revered than that of Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller. The only fighting man to receive the Navy Cross five separate times - a military honor second only to the Congressional Medal of Honor - he was the epitome of a professional warrior.
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good book, God awful reading.
- By Amazon Customer on 12-28-21
By: Burke Davis
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Band of Brothers
- E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne, from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest
- By: Stephen E. Ambrose
- Narrated by: Tim Jerome
- Length: 12 hrs and 37 mins
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Easy Company, 506th Airborne Division, U.S. Army, was as good a rifle company as any in the world. From their rigorous training in Georgia in 1942 to D-Day and victory, Ambrose tells the story of this remarkable company, which kept getting the tough assignments. Easy Company was responsible for everything from parachuting into France early D-Day morning to the capture of Hitler's Eagle's Nest at Berchtesgaden. Band of Brothers is the account of the men of this remarkable unit.
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High Expectations Met
- By Audrey on 02-12-13
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Abandoned in Hell
- The Fight for Vietnam's Fire Base Kate
- By: William Albracht, Marvin Wolf
- Narrated by: Brian O'Neill
- Length: 9 hrs and 46 mins
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In October 1969, Captain William Albracht, the youngest Green Beret in Vietnam, took command of a remote hilltop outpost called Fire Base Kate, held by only 27 American soldiers and 150 Montagnard militiamen. He found their defenses woefully unprepared. At dawn the next morning, three North Vietnamese Army regiments - some 6,000 men - crossed the Cambodian border and attacked.
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Amazing story
- By Effie on 04-12-16
By: William Albracht, and others
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Guadalcanal Marine
- By: Kerry L. Lane
- Narrated by: Kenneth Lee
- Length: 10 hrs and 37 mins
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In Guadalcanal Marine, Lt. Col. Kerry L. Lane recounts the dark reality of combat experienced by the men of the 1st Marine Division fighting on Guadalcanal and Cape Gloucester. With 80 gripping photographs and his text, he brings to life the struggles of his companions as they achieve these two astonishing victories.
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I want to give a very honest review.
- By Jfm on 07-12-15
By: Kerry L. Lane
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Boting
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SCROLL DOWN TO SEE VIDEO OF A VIETNAM HELICOPTER GUNSHIP IN LIVE COMBAT Experience intense combat from the Crew Chief/Door Gunner’s seat in a Stinger helicopter gunship.The author presents this book based on his personal experiences in the Vietnam War as a 18-year-old gunship Crew Chief/Door Gunner. He wants the reader to experience what it is like to kill dozens of enemy combatants and collaterally, non-combatants. How to live with the frequent near-death experiences and the constant high probability of being killed. Endure the frequent loss of fellow soldiers in combat. Witness a young ...
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Great book marred by the reader
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A Filthy Way to Die
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The author, a retired Navy Commander, presents a unique view of the Vietnam War while providing an understanding of the horror, brutality, chaos, and insanity of war. His interviews with 61 members of the U.S. Naval Academy Class of 1965 who served during the war in Vietnam include candid, first-hand accounts of American action on the ground, in the air, on the rivers, and offshore. Their stories involve Marines fighting bloody battles for hills soon abandoned after being captured; Naval aviators watching their wingman being shot down on missions targeting meaningless targets while Hanoi ...
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Mispronunciation of towns, regions, some terms
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SOG Medic
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- Narrated by: Arthur Flavell
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In the years since the Vietnam War, the elite unit known as SOG has spawned many myths, legends, and war stories. Special Forces medic Joe Parnar served with SOG during 1968 in FOB2/CCC near the tri-border area that gave them access to the forbidden areas of Laos and Cambodia. Parnar recounts his time with the recon men of this highly classified unit, as his job involved a unique combination of soldiering and lifesaving.
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Medics in Vietnam war
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Uncommon Valor is a look into the formation and operation of an advanced Special Forces recon company during the Vietnam War. Code-named the Studies and Observations Group, SOG was the most covert US military unit in its time and contained only volunteers from such elite units as the Army's Green Berets, Navy SEALs, and Air Force Air Commandos. SOG warriors operated in small teams, going behind enemy lines in Laos and Cambodia and along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, tasked with performing special reconnaissance, sabotaging North Vietnamese Army ammunition, and far more.
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Pass this one by
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- J.Brock
- 03-17-23
Exceptional
This is a great book from start to finish. It’s non stop action but also gives the behind the scene details of the Tet offensive and what the men faced during this time of great adversity. These were the bravest of men. Shawn Compton provides the best narration.
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- Jocko48
- 10-28-23
A Vietnam Classic
This has become one of my favorite books of the Vietnam war. Having a large library of books about the war, this book is right near the top of the list. The author lived the maxim of never asking your men to do some thing that you wouldn't do your self. His going into the tunnels really surprised me as most officers wouldn't do it. A good leader that cared for his men. Speaking as the enemy was obviously based on the intelligence they gathered, in the field, from enemy documents. It should required reading at West Point.
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- mark blankenship
- 02-03-23
I couldn’t stop listening
First I want to say thank you for your service
And secondly I want to say thank you for sharing your experiences in this book
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- Maria
- 01-11-24
Truth & care of the men
I enjoyed the human side of an officer and his young men placed in his care. The history of this awful war (war in my view it was not a skirmish!) Thank you all for your service! Blessing’s to each of you, your families and friends.
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- Kindle Customer
- 05-31-21
infantry commanders USA
Best company commander book since McDONALDS ww 2 book Company Commander! You can almost smell and hear the the combat.
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- Clayton Gonzalez
- 03-17-24
Amazing
This was truly a great book, I love Vietnam books in this was one of the best ones I’ve read. The narrator was also very good.
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- Steve Hillman MD
- 11-28-22
A great record of our Vietnam involvement
Bask in the glory of Capt Wikan and his men during his tour in Vietnam. A time in which the hunter became the hunted and then finally the victorious hunter.
A true story that must be heard.
To all my brothers and sisters in Vietnam, we’ll done.
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- Craig A.
- 10-31-23
Great book!
It was good from beginning to end! As the book ended, I found myself wanting more!
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- Matthew Miller
- 02-25-24
Exciting
As a former Wolfhounds myself. A Co. 2/27. I had to give this a listen. Exciting and hilarious along the way.
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