No Turning Point: The Saratoga Campaign in Perspective
Campaigns and Commanders Series, Book 32
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Theodore Corbett
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The Battle of Saratoga in 1777 ended with British general John Burgoyne’s troops surrendering to the American rebel army commanded by General Horatio Gates. Historians have long seen Burgoyne’s defeat as a turning point in the American Revolution because it convinced France to join the war on the side of the colonies, thus ensuring American victory. But that traditional view of Saratoga overlooks the complexity of the situation on the ground.
Setting the battle in its social and political context, Theodore Corbett examines Saratoga and its aftermath as part of ongoing conflicts among the settlers of the Hudson and Champlain valleys of New York, Canada, and Vermont. This long, more local view reveals that the American victory actually resolved very little.
In transcending traditional military history, Corbett examines the roles not only of enlisted Patriot and Redcoat soldiers but also of landowners, tenant farmers, townspeople, American Indians, Loyalists, and African Americans. He begins the story in the 1760s, when the first large influx of white settlers arrived in the New York and New England backcountry.
Ethnic and religious strife marked relations among the colonists from the outset. Conflicting claims issued by New York and New Hampshire to the area that eventually became Vermont turned the skirmishes into a veritable civil war. These pre-Revolution conflicts - which determined allegiances during the Revolution - were not affected by the military outcome of the Battle of Saratoga.
The book is published by University of Oklahoma Press.
Praise for the book:
"There is no study to match No Turning Point, whether for its social precision or for its military account." (Edward Countryman, author of A People in Revolution: The American Revolution and Political Society in New York, 1760–1790)
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Good Book
- By Rob K on 04-08-20
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The War That Made America
- A Short History of the French and Indian War
- By: Fred Anderson
- Narrated by: Simon Vance
- Length: 7 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 618
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 438
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 434
Apart from The Last of the Mohicans, most Americans know little of the French and Indian War, also known as the Seven Years' War, and yet it remains one of the most fascinating periods in our history. In January 2006, PBS will air The War That Made America, a four-part documentary about this epic conflict. Fred Anderson, the award-winning and critically acclaimed historian, has written the official tie-in to this exciting television event.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A thorough and absorbing history
- By Michael on 03-15-10
By: Fred Anderson
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Crucible of War
- The Seven Years' War and the Fate of Empire in British North America, 1754-1766
- By: Fred Anderson
- Narrated by: Paul Woodson
- Length: 29 hrs and 4 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 627
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 541
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 544
In this vivid and compelling narrative, the Seven Years' War - long seen as a mere backdrop to the American Revolution - takes on a whole new significance. Relating the history of the war as it developed, Anderson shows how the complex array of forces brought into conflict helped both to create Britain's empire and to sow the seeds of its eventual dissolution. Beginning with a skirmish in the Pennsylvania backcountry involving an inexperienced George Washington, the Iroquois chief Tanaghrisson, and the ill-fated French emissary Jumonville, Anderson reveals a chain of events that would lead to world conflagration.
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4 out of 5 stars
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A Detailed History
- By Daniel on 07-15-18
By: Fred Anderson
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The Politically Incorrect Guide to the American Revolution
- By: Larry Schweikart, Dave Dougherty
- Narrated by: John McLain
- Length: 10 hrs and 27 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 151
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 142
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 140
The best-selling Politically Incorrect Guide series provides an unvarnished, unapologetic overview of controversial topics every American should understand. The Politically Incorrect Guide to the American Revolution is a myth-busting review of America's violent struggle for independence.
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1 out of 5 stars
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This book is revisionist history at its worst
- By Kim Ness on 09-05-20
By: Larry Schweikart, and others
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The Victory with No Name
- The Native American Defeat of the First American Army
- By: Colin G. Calloway
- Narrated by: Mark Boyett
- Length: 7 hrs and 5 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 44
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 37
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 38
In 1791, General Arthur St. Clair led the United States Army in a campaign to destroy a complex of Indian villages at the Miami River in northwestern Ohio. Almost within reach of their objective, St. Clair's 1,400 men were attacked by about 1,000 Indians. The U.S. force was decimated, suffering nearly a thousand casualties in killed and wounded, while Indian casualties numbered only a few dozen. As renowned Native American historian Colin Calloway demonstrates here, St. Clair's Defeat - as it came to be known - was hugely important for its time.
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5 out of 5 stars
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very good
- By Paola V. Hidalgo on 08-02-17
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The Swamp Fox
- How Francis Marion Saved the American Revolution
- By: John Oller
- Narrated by: Joe Barrett
- Length: 8 hrs and 47 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 1,163
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 1,017
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 1,010
In the darkest days of the American Revolution, Francis Marion and his band of militia freedom fighters kept hope alive for the patriot cause during the critical British southern campaign. Like the Robin Hood of legend, Marion and his men attacked from secret hideaways before melting back into the forest or swamp. Employing insurgent tactics that became commonplace in later centuries, Marion and his brigade inflicted losses on the enemy that were individually small but cumulatively a large drain on British resources and morale.
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4 out of 5 stars
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The Swamp Fox - Francis Marion
- By Stephen on 06-07-17
By: John Oller
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War at Saber Point
- Banastre Tarleton and the British Legion
- By: John Knight
- Narrated by: Ian Putnam
- Length: 9 hrs and 27 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 30
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 26
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Story5 out of 5 stars 26
The British Legion was one of the most remarkable regiments, not only of the American Revolution, but of any war. A corps made up of American Loyalists, it saw its first action in New York and then engaged in almost every battle in the Southern colonies. Relying on firsthand accounts - letters, diaries, and journals - War at Saber Point: Banastre Tarleton and the British Legion is the enthralling story of those forgotten Americans and the young Englishman who led them.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A must read for Revolutionary War buffs
- By FDal on 12-23-21
By: John Knight
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The Making of Oliver Cromwell
- By: Ronald Hutton
- Narrated by: Michael Page
- Length: 13 hrs and 42 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4 out of 5 stars 57
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 51
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Story4 out of 5 stars 51
Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) - the only English commoner to become the overall head of state - is one of the great figures of history, but his character was very complex. He was at once courageous and devout, devious and self-serving; as a parliamentarian, he was devoted to his cause; as a soldier, he was ruthless. Cromwell's speeches and writings surpass in quantity those of any other ruler of England before Victoria, and, for those seeking to understand him, he has usually been taken at his word. In this remarkable new work, Ronald Hutton untangles the facts from the fiction.
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3 out of 5 stars
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Very specialized
- By Draperbart on 04-23-22
By: Ronald Hutton
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The American Civil War
- A Military History
- By: John Keegan
- Narrated by: Robin Sachs
- Length: 16 hrs and 32 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 351
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 272
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 276
For the past half century, John Keegan, the greatest military historian of our time, has been returning to the scenes of America’s most bloody and wrenching war to ponder its lingering conundrums: the continuation of fighting for four years between such vastly mismatched sides; the dogged persistence of ill-trained, ill-equipped, and often malnourished combatants; the effective absence of decisive battles among some two to three hundred known to us by name.
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5 out of 5 stars
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A Novel Approach (As Opposed to Novelistic)
- By margot on 11-18-12
By: John Keegan
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1777
- The Year of the Hangman
- By: John S. Pancake
- Narrated by: Robert Thaler
- Length: 13 hrs and 29 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 40
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Performance4 out of 5 stars 38
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Story4 out of 5 stars 38
A revisionist view of the Revolution's most crucial year...it explodes many of the myths surrounding Burgoyne's Canadian expedition and Howe's Pennsylvania campaign. There is a wealth of fascinating detail in this book, including information on arms and supplies, rations for women camp followers, and even the numbers of carts (30-odd) carrying Burgoyne's luggage.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Very Good
- By William on 08-22-16
By: John S. Pancake
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The Tragedy of Benedict Arnold
- An American Life
- By: Joyce Lee Malcolm
- Narrated by: Paul Boehmer
- Length: 14 hrs and 58 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 48
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 45
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 45
Proud and talented, history now remembers this conflicted man solely through the lens of his last desperate act of treason. Yet the fall of Benedict Arnold remains one of the Revolutionary period's great puzzles. Why did a brilliant military commander, who repeatedly risked his life fighting the British, who was grievously injured in the line of duty, and fell into debt personally funding his own troops, ultimately became a traitor to the patriot cause?
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3 out of 5 stars
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good story....questionable performance
- By Amazon Customer on 07-12-19
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Autumn of the Black Snake
- The Creation of the U.S. Army and the Invasion That Opened the West
- By: William Hogeland
- Narrated by: Kevin Stillwell
- Length: 15 hrs and 43 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 151
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 143
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 141
In 1783, with the signing of the Peace of Paris, the American Revolution was complete. And yet even as the newly independent United States secured peace with Great Britain, it found itself losing an escalating military conflict on its borderlands. The enemy was the indigenous people of the Ohio Valley, who rightly saw the new nation as a threat to their existence.
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1 out of 5 stars
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HISS-story, Not History
- By N/A on 11-11-21
By: William Hogeland
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The Road to Guilford Courthouse
- The American Revolution in the Carolinas
- By: John Buchanan
- Narrated by: Pete Cross
- Length: 22 hrs and 6 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 68
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 62
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Story5 out of 5 stars 62
This brilliant account of the proud and ferocious American fighters who stood up to the British forces in savage battles highlights just how crucial these individuals were in deciding both the fate of the Carolina colonies and the outcome of the American Civil War.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Amazing Book
- By Anthony S. on 04-01-21
By: John Buchanan
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American Indian Wars
- A Captivating Guide to a Series of Conflicts That Occurred in North America and How They Impacted Native American Tribes, Including Events Such as the Sand Creek Massacre
- By: Captivating History
- Narrated by: Colin Fluxman
- Length: 4 hrs and 23 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall5 out of 5 stars 31
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Performance5 out of 5 stars 30
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 30
Today, the United States of America is one of the largest countries in the world. Comprised of 50 states, this huge nation is filled with diverse topography, as well as a variety of flora and fauna. Not only that, but the USA is also home to a huge population with diverse ethnic backgrounds. A vast number of the white population are the descendants of the European colonists and settlers who ultimately conquered the land, dominating the Native Americans who were the original inhabitants of the land. If you want to learn more about the American Indian Wars, listen to this audiobook!
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5 out of 5 stars
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Subject, Verb, Object.
- By Mika Chevez on 05-17-20
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Brothers at Arms
- American Independence and the Men of France and Spain Who Saved It
- By: Larrie D. Ferreiro
- Narrated by: David Colacci
- Length: 16 hrs and 36 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 31
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 26
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Story4.5 out of 5 stars 25
In this groundbreaking, revisionist history, Larrie D. Ferreiro shows that at the time the first shots were fired at Lexington and Concord the colonists had little chance, if any, of militarily defeating the British. The nascent American nation had no navy, little in the way of artillery, and a militia bereft even of gunpowder. In his detailed accounts, Ferreiro shows that without the extensive military and financial support of the French and Spanish, the American cause would never have succeeded.
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Valley Forge
- By: Bob Drury, Tom Clavin
- Narrated by: Jeremy Bobb
- Length: 14 hrs and 45 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 375
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 341
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Story5 out of 5 stars 339
Valley Forge is the riveting true story of an underdog US toppling an empire. Using new and rarely seen contemporaneous documents - and drawing on a cast of iconic characters and remarkable moments that capture the innovation and energy that led to the birth of our nation - the New York Times best-selling authors Bob Drury and Tom Clavin provide a breathtaking account of this seminal and previously undervalued moment in the battle for American independence.
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5 out of 5 stars
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Moving story about saving the Revolution
- By LEE on 11-15-18
By: Bob Drury, and others
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George Washington: A Captivating Guide to an American Founding Father Who Served as the First President of the United States of America
- By: Captivating History
- Narrated by: David Patton
- Length: 3 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Overall4.5 out of 5 stars 9
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Performance4.5 out of 5 stars 9
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Story4 out of 5 stars 9
This is the history of George Washington who was a president, a general, and a Founding Father of a new nation. But, most of all, it is the story of George Washington the man. Many of the anecdotes related are true stories told by the people who were his own family and friends. This captivating history audiobook covers topics such as: she was horrified, from tranquility to turmoil, two if by sea, one shot starts the revolution, Canada to New Jersey, a year of hardship, and more.
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5 out of 5 stars
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This author is engaging.
- By Randall Torrez on 11-07-18
What listeners say about No Turning Point: The Saratoga Campaign in Perspective
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Overall4 out of 5 stars
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- Martin J Dunleavy
- 03-02-23
Civil war in the north during the revolution
An extensive argument made that considerable war for independence in New York, Vermont, and New Hampshire a Civil War existed during the American revolution between loyalists and patriots. Very well documented somewhat dry, but did a good job, placing the Saratoga campaign in context with other events in the area before and after the American revolution.
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