Mengzi (Mencius)
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The Mengzi is one of the very greatest works of world literature and philosophy, and it is perhaps the single most influential Confucian text of all time.
Of all the Confucian classics, it is also the one most likely to speak to a contemporary audience. The Mengzi contains the dialogues, debates and sayings of Mengzi, a Confucian sage of the fourth century BCE. (He is also known by the Latinization of his name, 'Mencius'.)
As Mengzi himself explains, Confucianism in his era was under attack by two rival philosophical schools, the egoism of Yang Zhu and the impartial consequentialism of Mozi. Yang Zhu argued that morality is an artificial deformation of human nature, which is naturally self-interested. At the other extreme, Mozi argued that a sage should aim to bring profit to everyone in the world impartially, caring no more for his own relatives than for complete strangers.
Mengzi argues that both of these approaches go against human nature. Contrary to what Yang Zhu’s egoism asserts, there is more to human nature than self-interest. Mengzi demonstrates this with his famous child-at-the-well thought experiment. Suppose someone were suddenly confronted with the sight of a child about to fall into a well. Any normal human in such a situation would have a feeling of alarm and compassion. Anyone who did not have such a reaction would be, literally, 'inhuman'.
The existence of this innate feeling of compassion, which Mengzi describes as the 'sprout' of the virtue of benevolence, disproves Yang Zhu’s simplistic egoism. While compassion for other humans is natural, Mengzi argues that it is equally natural to love one’s own friends and relatives more than strangers. Consequently, the impartiality demanded of Mohism is both impractical and unwarranted.
These arguments are just a small part of Mengzi’s subtle and fascinating worldview, which includes accounts of why people fail to be virtuous, what distinguishes genuine virtue from its semblances, and a political philosophy of 'benevolent government' that has contemporary relevance. This new translation of the Mengzi gives a flavor for the beauty of the original classical Chinese but is written in a lively English style that is accessible to contemporary listeners.
In addition, this translation is distinctive because it includes a running commentary. This commentary draws heavily upon the Collected Commentaries on the Four Books by the Song-dynasty Confucian Zhu Xi (1130-1200 CE). Zhu Xi’s commentary is both intrinsically insightful and historically influential, because it was the basis of the civil service examinations in China for almost 600 years. Consequently, generations of Chinese scholars literally committed to memory all of the Mengzi along with Zhu Xi’s commentary on it. Listeners to this audiobook will learn about Confucianism, will be exposed to one of the greatest works of world literature and will have a window into the heart of East Asian civilizations. Bryan Van Norden's new translation of the Mengzi (Mencius) is accurate, philosophically nuanced and fluent. He reads on this Ukemi recording with an informal and accessible authority.
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Kant published this work in 1795, during the aftermath of the American Revolution and the French Revolution. The high hopes of the European Enlightenment had been dampened by the Reign of Terror in which tens of thousands of people died, and the perpetual cycle of war and temporary armistice seemed to be inescapable. Kant's essay is best known as an early articulation of the idea of a league of nations that could bring an end to all hostilities. Today, the United Nations continues to pursue that dream, but lasting peace still seems to be wishful thinking.
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The Best on The Foundation of the Metaphysics of Morals
- By JCW on 07-28-18
By: Immanuel Kant
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My Gita
- By: Devdutt Pattanaik
- Narrated by: Vivek Madan
- Length: 6 hrs and 15 mins
- Unabridged
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In My Gita, acclaimed mythologist Devdutt Pattanaik demystifies The Bhagavad Gita for the contemporary reader. His unique approach - thematic rather than verse by verse - makes the ancient treatise eminently accessible. In a world that seems spellbound by argument over dialogue, vi-vaad over sam-vaad, Devdutt highlights how Krishna nudges Arjuna to understand rather than judge his relationships.
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Narration was poor
- By Divya G. on 07-24-17
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The Road Home
- A Contemporary Exploration of the Buddhist Path
- By: Ethan Nichtern
- Narrated by: Ethan Nichtern
- Length: 8 hrs and 2 mins
- Unabridged
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Do you feel at home right now? Or do you sense a hovering anxiety or uncertainty, an underlying unease that makes you feel just a bit uncomfortable, a bit distracted and disconnected from those around you? In The Road Home, Ethan Nichtern, a senior teacher in the Shambhala Buddhist tradition, investigates the journey each of us takes to find where we belong.
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How can you pass this up?
- By Amy Minutillo on 04-08-16
By: Ethan Nichtern
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Knowing Christ Today
- Why We Can Trust Spiritual Knowledge
- By: Dallas Willard
- Narrated by: David Cochran Heath
- Length: 6 hrs and 54 mins
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At a time when popular atheism books are talking about the irrationality of believing in God, Willard makes a rigorous intellectual case for why it makes sense to believe in God and in Jesus, the Son.
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Logical to a fault
- By cynthia on 05-13-10
By: Dallas Willard
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How to Win an Election
- An Ancient Guide for Modern Politicians
- By: Quintus Tullius Cicero, Philip Freeman - translator
- Narrated by: Doug Kaye
- Length: 1 hr and 5 mins
- Unabridged
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How to Win an Election is an ancient Roman guide for campaigning that is as up-to-date as tomorrow's headlines. In 64 BC when idealist Marcus Cicero, Rome's greatest orator, ran for consul (the highest office in the Republic), his practical brother Quintus decided he needed some no-nonsense advice on running a successful campaign.
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How to be a politician ...
- By Benedict on 07-31-13
By: Quintus Tullius Cicero, and others
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The Heart of Meditation
- Discovering Innermost Awareness
- By: His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Jeffrey Hopkins - editor/translator
- Narrated by: Brian Nishii
- Length: 3 hrs and 21 mins
- Unabridged
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His Holiness the Dalai Lama provides intimate details on an advanced meditation practice called Dzogchen using a visionary poem by the 19th-century saint Patrul Rinpoche, author of the Buddhist classic Words of My Perfect Teacher. The Dalai Lama deftly connects how training the mind in compassion for other beings is directly related to - and in fact a prerequisite for - the very pinnacle of Buddhist meditation.
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What a deep book....
- By Cian on 01-31-18
By: His Holiness the Dalai Lama, and others
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On the Soul & Parva Naturalia
- By: Aristotle
- Narrated by: James Cameron Stewart
- Length: 8 hrs and 55 mins
- Unabridged
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Two contrasting reflections by Aristotle which cover very particular ground. In 'On the Soul', Aristotle presents his view of the 'life essence' which, he argues, is possessed by living things whether plants, animals or humans. Not a 'soul' in the generally accepted Western use of the term, this 'soul', he says, is a life force that is indivisible from the organism that possesses it.
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DeAnima. Aristotle on the soul.
- By Reader on 07-28-18
By: Aristotle
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A Short History of Ethics
- By: Alasdair MacIntyre
- Narrated by: Tim Dalgleish
- Length: 12 hrs and 20 mins
- Unabridged
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A Short History of Ethics is a significant contribution written by one of the most important living philosophers. It remains an important work, ideal for all students interested in ethics and morality.
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Great philosopher made ridiculous by accents
- By Olivia Walling on 10-04-17
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Love Between Equals
- Relationship as a Spiritual Path
- By: Polly Young-Eisendrath
- Narrated by: Holly Palance
- Length: 8 hrs and 47 mins
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Utilizing the wisdom of her years of personal and professional practice, Young-Eisendrath dismantles our idealized projections about love, while revealing how mindfulness and communication can help us identify and honor the differences with our partners and strengthen our bonds. These practical and time-tested guidelines are rooted in sound understanding of modern psychology and offer concrete ideas and the necessary tools to reinforce and reinvigorate our deepest relationships.
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Insightful
- By Anonymous User on 07-06-23
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A Concise History of Buddhism
- From 500 BCE-1900 CE
- By: Andrew Skilton
- Narrated by: Jinananda
- Length: 8 hrs and 25 mins
- Unabridged
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Andrew Skilton - Senior Research Fellow in Buddhist Studies, Kings College, London - explains the development of the basic concepts of Buddhism and its spread across the continents during its 2,500 years of history. He begins with a close look at Buddhism in India, where it flourished until the 12th/13th century CE, charting the growth of different schools and practices. By the time it disappeared from its homeland midway through the millennium, it had become established in Central Asia and the Far East in a variety of forms.
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Difficult for the indoctrinated
- By Heavypen on 04-18-18
By: Andrew Skilton
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Gifts Differing
- Understanding Personality Type
- By: Isabel Briggs Myers, Peter B. Myers - with
- Narrated by: Patricia Rodriguez
- Length: 8 hrs and 21 mins
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Like a thumbprint, personality type provides an instant snapshot of a person's uniqueness. Drawing on concepts originated by Carl Jung, this audiobook distinguishes four categories of personality styles and shows how these qualities determine the way you perceive the world and come to conclusions about what you've seen. It then explains what they mean for your success in school, at a job, in a career, and in your personal relationships.
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half/half
- By Lillianne on 03-19-19
By: Isabel Briggs Myers, and others
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- Angus J. Mckellar
- 05-26-21
The author is a great narrator!
Mr. Norden is a superb narrator (and translator/commentator). I wish he would do some of the other Chinese philosophy classics as well.
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- Cwaiter
- 09-21-23
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Good book for anyone who is interested in eastern philosophy. This book would go well with a book on Confucius.
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- Eric
- 04-03-22
Excellent book, great narration. Treat yourself!
I'm always a little hesitant to get audiobooks that are read by the same person who wrote it – it's a bit like indexing your own book, innit? – but Bryan knocked it out of the park, both in his discussion of Mengzi in the text itself, but absolutely in his narration. It wasn't too fast or too dry, rushing through because he already knew all the lines, and he kept an even pace and tone throughout the chapters, which is a skill that seems deceptively simple but is difficult to pull off. Not sure if he was an audiobook narrator in another life or if he's just a natural at this, but it was engaging to listen to on all the levels that matter for an audiobook.
I'll definitely be re-listening to this in the future!
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- Anonymous User
- 04-20-20
intelligence
good for the whole world ,one must read it at least five orten times,then you cen understand it
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- Agenbite
- 03-29-20
Abridged, despite what it says
So, I think this is a great translation of Mengzi. However, I am dinging the makers of the audiobook, Ukemi, for not being honest. They called this an unabridged audiobook. That is not true. I am reading it with a copy of the print edition and large swaths are pulled from Van Norden's original text.
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